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Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by JJS, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. JJS

    JJS Senior Member

    Hi amberdog45,

    Thanks for the idea....I have Ancestry, which is where I started my search for his details. I have just gone back on to try again and see if I missed something but I can't find any registration of his death! Theres just.... Birth, residency, war grave and probate! But that's all I can find. Could it be because his body was never recovered do you think? or should there be a registration somewhere?

    Thanks again,
    Parnel.
     
  2. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Thank you for your kind words. Its always a pleasure to be able to help, but the real credit should go to in this instance Colin Cummings and people like him that go to the trouble to catalog these sad losses and publish them. these brave young men should always be remembered.

    Regards

    Peter.
     
  3. JJS

    JJS Senior Member

    My husband and I were discussing that very subject... that you don't appreciate until you start searching that there are people out there recording all the fine details and how much of their time is given to doing it. Excuse my ignorance Peter, but who is Coli Cummings? and are there any books/documents available to either buy or access on line?

    Regards,
    Parnel.
     
  4. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Colin Cummings compiles and edits the following books re RAF accidents / losses from 1940 to 2009.....

    Though Without Anger - 1940 - 1945
    The Price Of Peace - VE Day to the end of 1945
    Final landings - 1946 - 1949
    Last take Off - 1950 - 1953
    Category Five - 1954 - 2009.

    For anyone with an interest in RAF losses along with W R. Chorleys Bomber Command Losses these are the books to have in your library.

    Regards

    Peter.
     
  5. JJS

    JJS Senior Member

    Thank you Peter,

    That's quite a list, I will keep an eye out for some of those.

    Regards,
    Parnel.
     
  6. ninjagirl

    ninjagirl New Member

    I just found this forum by chance, as I was looking for information and a photo of my great uncle, as I am putting together a video for my granddad 60th anniversary and it inspired me to do a WW2 film script, which will be dedicated to my great uncle Harold and the RAF pilots who fought in the war. I don't have much information at the moment, as I only just ask my dad for some information. My mum has a family tree with more info and his brother Cyril trevor seabrook (My granddad) would have more information about what happened, as far as I am aware he has a grave around the Plymouth/Devon area, but i have to confirm that with my mum, as I researched it years ago and forgot where it was.

    But Harold was born on the 28/10/23, and died at the age of 21 years old, he was the brother to Cyril, stanley and Muriel seabrook. His father is Leonard John Rufus seabrook who married Winifred ethel bonel. I only registered to let you know and When I have more information, I will post it or you could pm me and I can give my facebook/email details and i can let you know more and it's also nice to find another member of the seabrook clan..
     
  7. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    I've just sent JJS a PM to alert her to your post.

    Regards

    Steve Y
     
  8. JJS

    JJS Senior Member

    Thank you so much for letting me know. I'm pretty sure I know who this is and I'm in contact with her mum. Will message direct. :)
     
  9. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Hi Parnel and Ninjagirl, I see from post #26 there's a grave. If so, who recovered the bodies?

    I had paid absolutely no attention to where the plane came down, but having looked at the Canmore link I now realise that Ardwell Bay is just south of where my greatx2 grandfathers ship sank in 1867. He and his crew were rescued by a lifeboat launched from Port Logan. Don't know if there was still a lifeboat there in 1945 though. If not, there may well have been one in Portpatrick by then.

    Having visited Float Bay a few years back with the camper van it appears to be as sparsely populated as it would have been in 1867. I'll look out some photos tomorrow.

    I know that the Port Logan lifeboat was one of the first there on the west coast. The people of Edinburgh raised the money for it and my greatx2 Grandfathers ships troubles lead to the first time the lifeboat had been launched.

    His wife had visited the lifeboat in 1866 while it was on exhibition in Glasgow on route to Port Logan, precisely a year to the day before it rescued her husband and his crew.

    Edit: Photos added of Float Bay and Port Logan and word document describing how some of the crew swam ashore to get help in 1867. Article described how generous the local folk were helping the crew and how drunk some of became on the washed up rum!!
     

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  10. JJS

    JJS Senior Member

     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I assume this is the man

    England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Harold L Seabrook
    Mother's Maiden Surname: Bond
    Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
    Registration district: Lewisham
    Inferred County: London
    Volume Number: 1d
    Page Number: 1638

    UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947

    Name: Harold Leonard Seabrook
    Age: 21
    Birth Date: abt 1924
    Death Date: 30 Jul 1945
    Cemetery: Runnymede Memorial
    Burial Country: England
    Father: Mr L J R Seabrook
    Mother: Mrs Seabrook
    Regimental Number: 1801076
    Region or Memorial: Memorial Register

    His probate is available but shows it going to his father (a retired postman) 122 Leahurst Road, Lewisham

    Is this him (found on Ancestry family trees):
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    TD
     
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  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Also found some crash details on a family tree

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    TD
     
  13. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    What a handsome, happy lad he was, always so sad to see how young they were, may he rest in peace.
     

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