help with ww2 service record

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by footymum, May 3, 2012.

  1. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  2. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    Fascinates me too-I have been all over the place tonight! I am surprised Ron and Tom haven't been along to tell us EXACTLY where they were/or where Qassasin is ;).

    Lesley
     
  3. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    Thanks for those Wills. At least the original poster has a lot of information on Qassasin/El Kasasin etc !!
     
  4. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    I tried to GE it too, put the LW Long/Lat 30 33' 50"N, 31 57' 30"W in and ended up somewhere off the West coast of Africa!o_O

    I ended up in the right place though, see attached.

    Still can't quite tie your LW photo in Wills :mad: Does the Ismailia Canal run to Lake Timsah or am I seeing something wrong?
     

    Attached Files:

  5. footymum

    footymum Member

    will have to try and print all this out to attach to his record, thanks all.
     
  6. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Sorry Footymum, when we get interested in something like this we can get a bit carried away and end up chatting to each other on YOUR thread!
     
  7. footymum

    footymum Member

    No worrys im grateful for what you have done thanks again
     
  8. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Lesley

    Simple reason for my non intervention - I was never near Egypt -Ron was though
    during July - August '44
    Cheers
     
  9. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    Lesley

    Simple reason for my non intervention - I was never near Egypt -Ron was though
    during July - August '44
    Cheers

    Ok thanks Tom:)

    Lesley
     
  10. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Lesley
    Fascinates me too-I have been all over the place tonight! I am surprised Ron and Tom haven't been along to tell us EXACTLY where they were/or where Qassasin is

    Just spotted your assertion which sent me scurrying to my diary for a mention of the place.
    Saturday 22nd. July 1944
    Last to disembark at Alexandria. Trucks took us to transit (camp) near
    Mersa Matru. First sight & taste of desert. Pretty whacked.
    Sunday 23rd. July 1944
    Quassasin Camp. Left camp at 5.30 am & travelled across desert to 30 miles North of Ishmalia. Advance party have been here two weeks. Big NAAFI
    cinema to each camp. On 24 hour stag. Arabs carrying out mass thefts here!
    Monday 24th. July 1944
    Off stag at 10 am. Put marquees up till lunch time! Went for Dodge 15 cwt.
    for 280 Battery, had to be towed. At 10 p.m. was still working putting jeeps
    around the camp & floodlighting area.

    Ron
     
  11. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Hi Ron, we were hoping you might pop in to add your experience here!
    I am slightly confused by a few things:
    Wills LW photo appears to show a base on the north shore of the Lake.
    Allowing for 70 odd years of change I think I can find the location on Google Earth.

    Present day Kasasin is a few KM west of Ismailia and the lake.

    Can you remember anything about the establishment or was is so large it could cover both the above locations?

    Mike
     
  12. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Mike

    Sorry.......that's all I have on the place, that it was a dump in the desert.

    As soon as I have time I will go the the BBC People's War archives and see what others have said about the same place

    There is plenty there.....

    You could use this search, for example:
    UK Web Archive
    entering Quassasin into the TEXT SEARCH box

    Ron
     
  13. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    I've scoured my RAOC and REME histories and can find no mention of Quassasin, or variations of,although as its in the middle of an area full of depots (Ismalia, port said, suez, tel-el-kebbir, Abu Sultan etc) I imagine it's as Ron said - just a dump in the desert of no great importance in the great scheme of things.

    I have seen Quassasin mentioned lots of times, but can't remember where just now.
     
  14. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Doh! of course: " We ended up at a large, tented camp about a mile west of the Suez Canal, which was the main British military base in Egypt, Qassasin Camp, and it was indeed just that, there were very few brick-built buildings. Qassasin was described as ‘that bugbear of all British troops newly arrived in the Middle East.’ It was alleged, if you hadn’t already got ‘jippy tummy’, this was the place you could expect it. There were swarms of thousands of flies and when we were eating or drinking they would settle on our lips and we had to constantly wave them off our food." - Bill Cheall


    From a book by one of the members on this forum, Paul Cheall

    Click here and scroll down.
     
  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Still on Quassasin

    w.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/82/a1077482.shtml

    Later we opened them and sang and joked our way to our next destination, Quassasin which was a holding camp. Staying there for a few days was not without incident. Our C.O. Major Macaubrey, was robbed whilst sleeping in the officers section, his wallet was taken from under his pillow whilst he slept, no doubt by the Arabs. He then decided to move in with us. At night we could hear the chilling howling of the desert dogs.


    Whipping the COs wallet while he slept !!!!!!

    At the risk of offending, no wonder in those days we used to speak about the "wily wogs" :)

    Ron
     
  16. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Stopping to think about the perils of being robbed by the local inhabitants reminded me, once again, about a similar problem my unit faced in Tunis.

    I first arrived in North Africa on April 13th 1943 but didn't join my unit (The 49th LAA) until the 22nd of May.

    On the 17th June, the King, George VI, flew to Tunisia to inspect the 78 Div and my unit proudly marched in front of him through the streets of Tunis.

    As a comparative newcomer it was deemed appropriate that I, and the other re-inforcements, should guard the vehicle park to ensure that the local citizens didn't make off with sundry parts, including all the tyres.

    When we were being given our instructions as to the exact perimiters of the sentry beat it was also pointed out to us that we should be keeping a close eye on the latrines.

    When I queried this last point it was explained to me that it was common practice for the local gentry to steal the by-product of bodily functions which were in great demand for spreading on the nearby fields.

    To this day I can proudly claim, that whilst my comrades-in-arms marched in triumph through the streets of Tunis I guarded a pile of sxxxt !

    Ron
     
  18. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    Thanks for your input Ron!!

    Looking at the maps it looks like it was just one massive camp in the desert.

    Lesley
     
  19. RosyRedd

    RosyRedd Senior Member

    Does this map help? It includes Qassassin.

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  20. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    The term " WOGS" originates in the "Wily Oriental Gentlemen" - term of endearment really
    - amongst others...!

    Which gave rise to many tales such as building sites with men from Ireland - Micks and Paddy's - Glasgow for Jocks and Macs- Liverpool for Wacks et al

    One wily complained to the super that he was being harassed and at the mention of the "R" word- the super leaned out the window and yelled - "hey - Mick - Mac - Paddy -Wack - leave the Wog alone

    Cheers
     

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