Help with deciphering unit details

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by Steve Newman, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. Steve Newman

    Steve Newman Member

    Hi all

    Was wondering if anyone could help me deciper the units on this part of mt grandfathers service record. I have zoomed the image in to the part in question...

    The first is Br A S Paris, which I know, although exactly where they were based in Paris I would still love to know...

    Then the problem ones...

    Underneath it looks like 1830 Crane(?) TPT RASC

    And below that

    4 Ord M....? Coy

    Then all is well again with Catering Pool and HQ BAOR.

    Anyone able to shed any light on the units please?

    Thanks
    Steve
     

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  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Here we go:

    1830 Platoon, Royal Army Service Corps - they were an independent platoon and 'crane transport' may well have been their role. The war diaries (1944 1945) ought to confirm that.

    4 Ordnance Maintenance Company, Royal Army Ordnance Corps. War diaries: 1944 1945
     
  3. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    BAOR British Army of the Rhine
     
  4. DoctorD

    DoctorD WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    My address was Air HQ (Ops), BAFO, BAOR

    Air Headquarters (Operations), British Air Forces of Occupation, British Army on the Rhine. Sorry to be picky, but "of" seems to have crept in of late, or perhaps it changed after I was demobbed from there in Jan 1948!
     
  5. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Doc D-


    perhaps if you wait ten minutes it will change again… the world appears full of people who want to change things…why I don't know and I doubt that they

    know themselves...

    Cheers
     
  6. Steve Newman

    Steve Newman Member

    Many thanks for the help

    Cheers
    Steve
     
  7. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Steve,

    does this fit?

    A Crane Transport Platoon. 21 Army Group.
    War Establishment XIV/1830/1. September 1944.
    Two RASC Crane Platoons were formed during September and were to form part of a General Transport Company (Amphibious) for the operation of cranes in the transhipment area. The platoon was self administering but was affiliated to a nearby workshop for workshop maintenance. In December the platoons were despatched to the advance base depots as they were no longer required for work on the beaches or in the transhipment areas.

    Personnel
    Subaltern
    serjeant
    lance serjeant
    5 X corporal
    25 X lance corporal
    41 X private and driver
    Total 74

    Plus attached
    2 X cook ACC

    Trades
    5 X driver mechanic
    vehicle mechanic
    administrative lance serjeant
    5 X corporal in charge of sections
    batman driver
    clerk
    25 X lance corporal driver
    32 X driver
    water dutyman

    Transport
    3 X motorcycle
    1 X car 2 seater 4 X 2
    2 X 3ton 4 X 4 GS
    1 X water trailer
    30 X crane (task vehicles)

    Headquarters
    Subaltern
    serjeant
    administrative lance serjeant
    vehicle mechanic
    batman driver
    clerk
    2 X driver
    water dutyman
    2 X cook ACC

    Motorcycle 1
    serjeant
    Motorcycle 2
    vehicle mechanic

    Car 2 seater 4 X 2
    Subaltern, batman driver

    3ton 4 X 4 GS 1
    2 X cook, water dutyman, driver
    Tows water trailer
    Carries cooking sets and rations
    3ton 4 X 4 GS 2
    lance serjeant, clerk, driver
    Carries office equipment and baggage

    Section 1 to 4
    Motorcycle
    corporal
    Crane, road mobile slewing, 5ton 1
    driver mechanic, driver
    Crane, road mobile slewing, 5ton 2
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Crane, road mobile slewing, 5ton 3
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Crane, road mobile slewing, 5ton 4
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Crane, road mobile slewing, 5ton 5
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Crane, road mobile slewing, 5ton 6
    lance corporal driver, driver

    Section 5
    Motorcycle
    corporal
    Lorry 3ton 6 X 4 Coles Crane MkVI 1
    driver mechanic, driver
    Lorry 3ton 6 X 4 Coles Crane MkVI 2
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Lorry 3ton 6 X 4 Coles Crane MkVI 3
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Lorry 3ton 6 X 4 Coles Crane MkVI 4
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Lorry 3ton 6 X 4 Coles Crane MkVI 5
    lance corporal driver, driver
    Lorry 3ton 6 X 4 Coles Crane MkVI 6
    lance corporal driver, driver

    Mike
     
  8. Steve Newman

    Steve Newman Member

    Mike

    You are a star, that fits perfectly and that they have two ACC cooks attached fits absolutely perfectly.

    Really appreciate that

    Steve
     
  9. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    @ Tom & Doc, nothing new - recall the ancient quotation attributed to Petronius that usually reads:

    Steve ;)
     
  10. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    At risk of becoming over confident:

    No4 Ordnance Maintenance Company was a late arrival and was deployed direct to 2 Army Railhead in Belgium.

    An ORDNANCE MAINTENANCE COMPANY.
    War Establishment IV/218/1. December 1943.

    This unit is designed to provide personnel for
    A Headquarters.
    A railhead stores section consisting of a regulating station sub section, an army troops railhead sub section and three supply railhead sub sections.
    A railhead ammunition section, consisting of three ammunition railhead sub sections.
    A railhead tank section consisting of a headquarters and four tank railhead tank sections. Sub sections are on the scale of one per armoured or tank brigade.
    An increment of two forward maintenance ammunition sections and two forward maintenance stores sections will be added for each corps served by the company.

    Headquarters
    Major, Ordnance Officer 3rd Class
    corporal clerk
    2 X clerk
    batman driver
    2 X motorcyclist
    1 X bicycle
    2 X motorcycle
    1 X car 5cwt 4 X 4

    Railhead Stores Section
    Regulating Station Sub Section
    Warrant Officer Class I Clerk
    serjeant storeman, general and clothing
    corporal clerk
    clerk
    corporal storeman, general and clothing
    4 X storeman, general and clothing
    Army Troops Sub Section
    Captain or Subaltern, Ordnance Officer 4th Class
    serjeant clerk, RAOC duties
    clerk
    corporal storeman, general and clothing
    3 X storeman, general and clothing
    1 X motorcycle
    1 X 15cwt GS
    3 X Supply Sub Section each
    Captain or Subaltern, Ordnance Officer 4th Class
    staff serjeant clerk, RAOC duties
    2 X serjeant storeman, general and clothing
    2 X clerk
    2 X corporal storeman, general and clothing
    13 X storeman, general and clothing
    batman
    cook ACC
    1 X motorcycle
    1 X 15cwt GS
    2 X 5ton mobile crane

    Railhead Ammunition Section
    3 X Ammunition Sub Section each
    2 X Captain or Subaltern, Ordnance Officer 4th Class
    Warrant Officer Class II Clerk
    Warrant Officer Class II Storeman, Technical, for ammunition
    staff serjeant, storeman, technical, for ammunition
    corporal clerk, RAOC duties
    clerk, RAOC duties
    2 X corporal storeman for ammunition
    14 X storeman for ammunition
    batman
    2 X driver
    motorcyclist
    cook ACC
    1 X bicycle
    1 X motorcycle
    1 X car 5cwt 4 X 4
    1 X 15cwt GS

    Railhead Tank Section
    Headquarters
    2 X Captain or Subaltern, Ordnance Officer 4th Class
    Warrant Officer Class II Clerk
    serjeant storeman, technical, for vehicles
    serjeant driver IC
    corporal clerk, RAOC duties
    3 X clerk, RAOC duties
    2 X corporal driver mechanic
    3 X driver mechanic
    corporal storeman, technical, for MT stores
    storeman, technical, for MT stores
    4 X storeman, technical, for vehicles
    2 X storeman, technical, for armament
    2 X storeman, technical, for signals and wireless
    batman driver
    2 X driver IC
    2 X general dutyman
    motorcyclist
    Warrant Officer Class II Armament Artificer (Vehicles) REME
    telecommunications mechanic (field) REME
    corporal vehicle mechanic, AFV REME
    3 X cook ACC
    1 X motorcycle
    1 X car 5cwt 4 X 4
    2 X 15cwt GS
    2 X 3ton 4 X 4 GS
    1 X 3ton 4 X 4 Stores, binned
    2 X tractor 6 X 4 breakdown
    2 X 3ton trailer GS

    4 X Sub Section each
    serjeant driver IC
    corporal driver mechanic
    3 X driver mechanic
    6 X driver IC
    motorcyclist
    corporal vehicle mechanic AFV REME
    1 X motorcycle

    The following increments will be made for each corps served by the company.
    2 X Forward Maintenance Ammunition Sections each
    Captain or Subaltern Ordnance Officer 4th Class
    Serjeant storeman, technical, for ammunition
    Corporal storeman, technical for ammunition
    6 X storeman, technical, for ammunition
    serjeant clerk RAOC duties
    batman
    motorcyclist
    cook ACC
    1 X motorcycle
    1 X 3ton 4 X 4 GS
    1 X 3ton trailer GS

    2 X Forward Maintenance Stores Sections each
    Captain or Subaltern Ordnance Officer 4th Class
    Serjeant storeman, technical, general and clothing
    Corporal storeman, technical, general and clothing
    6 X storeman, technical, general and clothing
    serjeant clerk RAOC duties
    batman
    motorcyclist
    cook ACC
    1 X motorcycle
    1 X 3ton 4 X 4 GS
    1 X 3ton trailer GS

    Mike
     

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