Help identifying this uniform and badges... please not a nazi

Discussion in 'Axis Units' started by Jelly_Belly, May 16, 2021.

  1. Jelly_Belly

    Jelly_Belly New Member

    Hi, I’m trying to find out my granddads history, he died 15 years ago so I can’t ask him, and my family say they don’t know much about him...

    I have found this photo of him as a teenager and I am looking for some one to try and help identify the uniform badges, I know it’s not a clear picture but I’m hoping someone can help, I think the eagle badge on the uniform looks like a nazi badge but I could be so wrong as I have no real knowledge of this subject, hence why I thought people on this forum might be able to help me.

    The only information I have on him is that he was born in Lithuania and was forced to join the army, apparently, he then ended up in Scotland after the war. That’s the only information I have on him.

    if anyone could shed any light on the uniform or badge I would appreciate it so much. If not thank you anyways.

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  2. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Definitely Wehrmacht, probably Luftwaffe (I am absolutely no expert on uniforms).
    If it is any consolation: Wehrmacht and Nazi are not necessarily the same thing - in dubio pro reo
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  3. RRTB

    RRTB 145 Fd Regt (Berkshire Yeomanry) RA

    This looks to me like a Luftwaffe uniform. Your grandfather seems to have the insignia for a private on his lapels. upload_2021-5-16_20-46-6.png
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  5. Jelly_Belly

    Jelly_Belly New Member

    Thank you everyone for replying and so fast too. I’ve googled Luftwaffe but don’t understand if he was “good” or “bad”, this sounds stupid but if he was in the Luftwaffe I didn’t realise he could join a German army if he was Lithuanian and in Lithuanian, like I said before I have absolutely no knowledge of wars and Army’s... so please excuse my stupidity... I will def research them up now...

    Does this make him a war criminal or a nazi? I’m so confused right now.
  6. von Smallhausen

    von Smallhausen Junior Member

    It looks Luftwaffe to me, the collor of the collarpatches are dark in this B/W pic. if they are red =Anti-Aircraft ( Flak) , brown = signals, dark blue = Medical.
    kind regards,

    By the way, a flieger has yellow collarpatches
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    He may have been a Nazi Party member , he may not.
    He may have been conscripted into the Luftwaffe .
    He may have been a storeman or the chap that fixed planes.
  8. Jelly_Belly

    Jelly_Belly New Member

    Thank you, I guess it’s one of those things I’ll never know.
  9. RRTB

    RRTB 145 Fd Regt (Berkshire Yeomanry) RA

    Yes, I too think that this chap was medical. Those lapel flashes are very dark indeed.

  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Was he in Scotland as a prisoner of war ? If so, then there ought to be records in the UK of his rank and branch etc.
  12. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    Some categories in German-occupied territories were subjected to conscription into the German armed forces. This applied I believe to all "Volksdeutsche" (ethnic Germans) and if I recall the definition of Volksdeustche got progressively broader in order to meet German manpower needs.If your grandfather was even partially ethnic German he may have been a conscript, not a volunteer.
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  13. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    If your grandad became a British citizen after the war his naturalisation papers may be at the Public Records Office. I believe on naturalisation he would have had to declare part of his ancestry & provide referees to vouch for him. Could also as part of the process have had to be declared in a newspaper, perhaps The Times or London Gazette (both have online indexes).
    Difficult to research in person at the PRO I know at the moment, and not sure what arrangements are in place for family enquiries such as this.
    Naturalisation, registration and British citizenship - The National Archives

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