Hello, Somerset Light Infantry help required

Discussion in 'User Introductions' started by Dave Richardson, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. Dave Richardson

    Dave Richardson Junior Member

    Hi

    As a newcomer to the forum I hope it's ok to leap straight in with a request for help?

    I hope someone will be able to help me or point me in the right direction in researching my uncle's ww2 service. All the information I have is from the CWGC - his name is George Ernest Nicholson, service number 14333643, He died on 24/09/1944 whilst serving with the 2nd Battalion Somerset Light Infantry in Italy, he is buried at the Gradara War Cemetery.

    I've sent for his service record but I was wondering if there are any other sources of info like a battalion war diary?

    Any help would be gratefully received.

    Regards

    Dave
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    welcome to the forum Dave

    have posted his CWGC details below to give forum members a bit more info.Hopefully someone can add to your request

    Private GEORGE ERNEST NICHOLSON

    14333643, 2nd Bn., Somerset Light Infantry
    who died age 20
    on 24 September 1944
    Son of Lawrence and Catherine Ellen Nicholson, of Hull.
    Remembered with honour
    GRADARA WAR CEMETERY
    CWGC :: Casualty Details
     
  4. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Dave - Gradara cemetery was one of the first to be built for the Gothic Line Battles and is just North of Ancona on the coast on the highway to Cattolica - it is different inasmuch as the graves are in tiers on the side of a hill but very attractive and well kept, some of my friends are also buried there.
    Cheers

    PS - 24th September was two days after Rimini was captured.
     
  5. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Dave
    If you are planning some sort of visit to the area then this might help before his records get to you - this is part of the path taken by 4th Inf Div and particulrly 28th Bde during the Gothic Line Battles- the 28th was composed of 2nd SLI - 2nd Kings and 2/4th Hampshires- at that time.

    4th Sept - Over the Marano to Ospetialetto
    17th Sept - on our ( 1st Canadian / 21Tank bde) left flank at Coriano Ridge at San Martino
    18/19 Sept -Casa Brioli and Sant' Aquilinni
    21st Sept - Over the Marecchia River ( to Rimini)
    22nd Sept - Over Hwy 9 (Via Emilia) and rail tracks at Sant Giustina ...then it goes off my map

    this might help note the place of his death - from his number he would have been called up in the summer of '42

    I witnessed the first experiment with the Artificial Moonlight and saw some of the 4th Div being slaughtered at San Martino on the 17/18th Sept
    Cheers
     
  6. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Dave -
    just found an extension of my map and it shows that 28th bde took over at Santa Giustina and on the 24th September they split with one section going towards
    Casale and the other towards Variano less than a mile from the Hwy #9 and the railtracks to Rimini - on the 25th - they appear to rest and the Westminster Regiment from Canadian 5th Armoured took over the chase towards San Vito....

    In my memory this seems to be about the time when 4th Div were warned to prepare to move to Greece as the 4th Indian Div was already there.
    Cheers
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Just having a look at Hampshires history , as Tom says , their 2/4th Bn was in same brigade as 2 SLI.
    Can't help too much but just a point about the River Marecchia from book in this extract about one of the Hampshires companies attack...

    ...moved forward it met opposition from Spandaus and shell fire, which was quickly overcome, so that shortly before dawn on 24th September the company reached their objective. The armour began to arrive and was very soon across the river, which was in effect no more than a stretch of shingle a quarter of a mile wide.

    Just in case you get the idea the river was a major obstacle.
    Sounds rather easy to cross, well apart from the Germans.
     
  8. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen -
    While it sounds - just a shingle or two so apart from the Germans - easy to cross - the monsoons hit at about that time - earlier at Croce /Gemmano ALL the rivers in that area were raging torrents - and extremely difficult to cross especialy with Tanks ......
    When I last visited there- 2005 - I toured the Coriano Ridge Cemetery on the 15th meaning to visit the others in the area but the monsoons hit on the 16th - keeping me very close to the Hotal at Riccione - on my departue on the saturday - the b.....y sun came out once more......
    Cheeers
     
  9. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum


    Cheers
    Paul
     
  10. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Dave - Gradara cemetery was one of the first to be built for the Gothic Line Battles and is just North of Ancona on the coast on the highway to Cattolica - it is different inasmuch as the graves are in tiers on the side of a hill but very attractive and well kept, some of my friends are also buried there.
    Cheers

    PS - 24th September was two days after Rimini was captured.

    Cemetery Photos

    GRADARA WAR CEMETERY

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  11. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Spidge - that's the one - different but still attarctive and was one of seven cemetery's for the Gothic Line - from there all the way to Cesena with the Ghurkas
    crematorium

    Cheers
     
  12. Dave Richardson

    Dave Richardson Junior Member

    Thanks to everyone, there's some realy interesting information there. Tom, a call up for him in Summer 42 would fit he as would have been 18 on 20/09/1942.

    Cheers

    Dave
     
  13. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Dave -
    You are very welcome to any knowledge imparted through the forum - would like to point out that from your initial query - within 1.5 hours - you had an almost complete answer to that inasmuch as you had the area in which he was killed within half a mile - what was going on at the time - and a photo of the cemetery- all you have to do now is to apply for his service records and the gaps will be filled as as to where and when he was trained - how he got to Italy and stuff like that.....

    That is the real worth of this Forum...and I am surprised that no one picked that up
    Cheers
     
  14. Dave Richardson

    Dave Richardson Junior Member

    Tom,
    I'm certainly appreciative of all the help received and do feel a bit inadequate because as yet I can't contribute anything to the forum. But you're right, forums like this are all about the willingness of it's members to share their knowledge and help with questions and that should be recognised.

    Regards

    Dave
     
  15. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    Hello and welcome.
     
  16. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Dave -
    don't worry about contributing - when you get his records - eventually - you will be back I have no doubt for translations - and you will contribute at that point when we see what really happened to his training etc which led to his death- but I can assure you - his grave is very well looked after - not only by the gardeners but children from the local school !
    Cheers
     
  17. Dave Richardson

    Dave Richardson Junior Member

    I've just received my Uncle's Service Record, its only taken 11 months to come through! When I've had chance to look through it I'll no doubt be back seeking help to interpret it!

    Dave
     
  18. GeeDubayou

    GeeDubayou Member

    Welcome to the Forum Dave!
     
  19. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Dave.

    Given the distance from Gradara to the River Marecchia, I suspect that your uncle was not killed on 24 Sep 44 but died in the care of the RAMC having been wounded earlier. Their Field Hospitals were some way back.

    I suspect that he was badly wounded a few days earlier in the early days of 4 BR Inf Div being committed to the Gothic Line battle in support of 1 (Cdn) Corps immediately after the fall of Coriano on 13-14 Sep 44.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  20. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Minden -
    WE can speculate all day long as to how men died in battle- but we never know unless there are eye witnesses however - I was wounded on the Sunday 17th September - alongside a battalion of 4th Div who - that evening made an attack on our (Cdn 1st Div) left flank by the first use of the Artificial Moonlight as we were being hauled off to the CCS which was at Ancona - 50 miles away- when this chap was wounded they were further North of Coriano - after Rimini fell he would have been perhaps also treated at Ancona to have been interred at Gradara which was fairly close.

    Cheers
     

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