halewood village war dead research

i have been researching the halewood parish church war memorial and have info on most . however 1 man who was killed has a notice in a local newsletter which states arthur jones missing on a raid over germany lived at hillocks lane tarbock which is part of the parish.the article was dated november 1943. any help on who this service man may be would be welcome also any information on any of the war dead both wars would be welcome. halewood is about 8 miles south of liverpool .

 

Hi izzy,

Owen is quite right when he says there was a lapse of time between an airman being lost and the details being published in a local newspaper, it was a matter of was he KIA or a POW and the Air Ministry did not issue info until they were pretty sure of their facts.

Having said that, here are the details relating to the loss of Arthur Jones mentioned in Owens post.

3-4 July 1943.

97 Squadron.
Lancaster III ED917 OF-U
Op: Cologne

Crew.
P/O. L G. Rembridge +
Sgt. R C S. Golding +
P/O. W J. Hills +
F/O. H W. Parry +
W/O. G R. Cobby +
Sgt. F M. Lamb +
Sgt. A. Jones +

The aircraft took off from Bourn at 2235 hrs. Six are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial; F/O. Parry lies in Rheinberg War Cemetery.

Bomber Command Losses Vol.4 - W R. Chorley.

 

I take it 4xTI is Incendery?

 

I take it 4xTI is Incendery?


Possibly = Target Indicators.

"Illuminators"; were PFF aircraft flying in front of the main force who would drop markers or Target indicators ( TI's) onto the designated 'aiming point' already illuminated by the "Finders". Again, if conditions were cloudy H2S navigational radar was used. These TI's were designed to burn with various and varying colours to prevent the German defenses lighting decoy fires. Various TI's were dubbed 'Pink Pansies', 'Red Spots' , and 'Smoke Puffs'. "Illuminators" could include Mosquitoes equipped with 'Oboe' if the target was within the range of this highly accurate bombing aid.
"Markers"; would then drop incendiaries onto the TI's just prior to the Main Force arrival. Further "Markers" called " Backers-Up" or "Supporters" would be distributed at points within the main bomber stream to remark or reinforce the original TI's as required.

 

ED917 bomb load was 1 x 4000lb 12 SBC.
Was is SBC?

Small Bomb Containers (SBC), each loaded with 236 x 4 lb No. 15 Incendiary and No. 15X Explosive Incendiary (1 in 10 mix) bombs. Total bomb load: 14,000 lbs.

 

thank's for replies iv'e thought . that it might have been him but after a bit of further research i found that he was born and bred in wigan. he worked in the mining industry and there is a collery under tarbock[ cronton collery] which may be the connection the only other airman that fits the bill was arthur sidney jones a londoner who died on 12/06/1943 while serving with 466 sqdn i have noticed with some names variation's many thanks to all

 

Finally found him Arthur Raymond Jones died 27/07/1941

 

Finally found him Arthur Raymond Jones died 27/07/1941

Izzy, Arthur Raymond Jones, is possibly listed on the cenotaph at Widnes. Not done any research yet, as he is one of my late additions.

 

POSSIBLY
Name: Arthur R Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hurst
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1921
Registration district: Leigh
Registration county: Lancashire

 

Phil he's the guy mentioned on the Widnes war memorial. I,ve been checking my old threads and updating them. He was born in West Brom in the midlands and lived in Cross Hillocks lane Tarbock.In the 1940,s this was actually part of Widnes. The family have gone by 1946 as they are not mentioned on the voters list after that year.

 

Izzy, might be your man

Name: Arthur R Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lowe
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1921
Registration district: W Bromwich
Registration county: Staffordshire

 

Thanks for that Phil. i already have a copy of his Birth Certificate.

 

lived in Cross Hillocks lane Tarbock.In the 1940,s this was actually part of Widnes.

Interesting, i live less than a mile from Cross Hillocks Lane and there are only around eight houses there. I wonder if there are any current long term residents living there who may remember the Jones family?

Here's a photo that i found on the net of said houses.


Photo courtesy of: Prescot Road, Tarbock:: OS grid SJ4787 :: Geograph British Isles - photograph every grid square!

 

John thanks for the picture. The Jones Family lived in a house called Gorran, Gorram or Gorman depending on the source. His father had a connection with the Chemical industry.His father died in 1946 and the family were then living in Middlewich [or it may be Northwich sorry offhand can't remember ] Cheshire.

 

The chemical industry connection rings true for Widnes and the surrounding area. It was a major producer of chemicals during the 19th and 20th century.

There is one other house (which can't be seen in the photo) in Cross Hillocks Lane, i'll take a trip down there tomorrow and see if any are named.

 

John i would appreciate that. The various spelling of the named house came from the voting registers for Tarbock which are in Widnes Library and the phone directorys for the 1940,s on Ancestry and an obituary in the Widnes Weekly News.Each mentions a different name.

 

Izzy, sorry about the delay in replying.

I went down Cross Hillocks Lane this morning...couldn't see a name plaque on any of the houses.

 

John thank you for taking the time to check out his address. Liverpool Library have O.S maps dating back a few years so they may have one with the House names on them thanks again Izzy.