Grenadier Guard query

Discussion in 'The Brigade of Guards' started by JW1t, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

    I'm new to this so hope I'm posting in the correct place. I'm looking into the history of my husband's uncle, Thomas Archibald Teece and know a fair amount already, i.e. details of his death in Furnes, Belgium in May 1940, also where he is buried. What I'm curious about is that CWGC records etc. list him as Drill Sergeant with the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards (like his father) whereas I have a 1932 London Electoral Roll listing for him that gives the same service number, but clearly states he's in the 3rd Battalion of the Guards. Was it common to switch battalions? Is it possible to ascertain Thomas's battalion at the start of WW2? Many thanks.
     
  2. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    I'm new to this so hope I'm posting in the correct place. I'm looking into the history of my husband's uncle, Thomas Archibald Teece and know a fair amount already, i.e. details of his death in Furnes, Belgium in May 1940, also where he is buried. What I'm curious about is that CWGC records etc. list him as Drill Sergeant with the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards (like his father) whereas I have a 1932 London Electoral Roll listing for him that gives the same service number, but clearly states he's in the 3rd Battalion of the Guards. Was it common to switch battalions? Is it possible to ascertain Thomas's battalion at the start of WW2? Many thanks.

    As you probably know, Furnes is near the Dunkirk perimiter- I can say that the 3rd Bn GG were definitely on the Bergues-Furnes Canal in may, which may explain the use of the name, but by the end the grenadiers had been transferred to the 5th Division so I lose track of their exact location- as by that time they had left the 1st Guards brigade. Do you have an exact date of death, other than May? It may help to clear matters up (It will be on the CWWG site but if you have the details to hand...)
     
  3. Owen

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  4. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

  5. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

    Thank you for this and the very prompt reply. I'd found the 1st Bn entries, in which Thomas is definitely mentioned on 30th May. I'd also found the 3rd Bn diaries, in which he isn't ... though at some point between 1932 and 1940, he did presumably belong to the 3rd. Bit of a mystery.
     
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Look for a Thread called Walking in the Footsteps of the BEF on here. I wrote and posted some pics of what was happening in Furnes in 1940 a few years ago-mainly guards related.
     
  7. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    If you apply to Grenadier Guards Regimental Headquarters, Wellington Barracks for his service record that will give you his full military history including postings between Battalions. I think it will cost you £30 - although I have seen mention on this site that Grenadier Guards still provide records for free?

    Steve Y
     
  8. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

    Thanks Steve, I'll check this out.
     
  9. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

    Thanks very much, I'll look for this now.
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  11. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    Drill Sergeant - a warrant officer class 2. Although the same rank as a company sergeant major, he is senior by appointment to a CSM and is addressed as Sir by CSMs'. Drill Sergeants and many WOs do cross post between battalions. The establishment is for two DSgts per battalion. If a WO has finished a tour as DSgt a replacement by regimental seniority etc, may come from another battalion.



    WO2 Grenadier Guards insignia:




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  12. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

    This is very helpful, thank you!
     
  13. JW1t

    JW1t Junior Member

    This is great, thank you!
     

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