Greetings - looking for info about grand dad's medal.

Discussion in 'User Introductions' started by Steve Leach, May 22, 2011.

  1. Steve Leach

    Steve Leach Strategy junkie

    hello everybody

    I found this forum by chance and I'm glad I did, I've always had an interest in WW2 and this is a really great site.

    I'm from Johannesburg, South Africa, but my parents are from Portsmouth UK originally.

    My Grandfathers both fought in the war and I have a medal belonging to my mother's father (he was a navy man). He left it to the first born grandson, which happened to be me.

    Unfortunately I never met him since i grew up in SA and he died when I was young, but the medal bears an inscription that reads something to the effect of: "presented by the President of the United States of America for rescuing 1500 American soldiers from a burning ammunition ship."

    I don't remember the exact wording of the inscription because the medal has been in a safe deposit box for many years. I don't even know what kind of medal it is.

    I'd like to find out more about the medal and the incident and his service during the war and this site looks like a great place to start.

    Looking forward to chatting with you folks in the near future. :)

    Take care

    Steve
     
  2. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Welcome and enjoy.!!!
     
  3. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    Hello Steve and welcome.
     
  4. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum Steve - enjoy!

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  5. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

    Welcome. Yes it is a great site! Enjoy

    Lesley
     
  6. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Hello Steve,

    Welcome to the forum.
     
  7. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Hi and welcome to the forum.
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    welcome to the forum

    if you could please post a photo
     
  9. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum


    Cheers
    Paul
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I don't remember the exact wording of the inscription because the medal has been in a safe deposit box for many years. I don't even know what kind of medal it is.

    I'd like to find out more about the medal

    Welcome to the forum.
    Can't you get to see it & take a photo?
     
  11. RJL

    RJL Senior Member

    Hi Steve. Welcome.

    In the absence of getting access to the Safety Deposit Box could you tell us what your Grandfather's name was?
     
  12. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Hi Steve and welcome. I don't suppose you have your Grandfather's service record? That would be a great help in solving this interesting question.

    Mike
     
  13. Steve Leach

    Steve Leach Strategy junkie

    Hi guys. Thanks for the warm welcome. :)

    Finding this site reminded me about the medal and inspired me to learn more about my grandfather. As I mentioned, i never knew him and my mother never speaks about him, although they were very close - he died over 30 years ago. I'm afraid I don't even know his first name, although his surname was Williams.

    I'm going to get the medal out of storage and take a picture of it as well as find out as much as i can from my mum about his service record. (She is in Alaska right now, so it may have to wait a little bit). One thing I do know is that he was stationed aboard the HMS Hood for a while, but thankfully was transferred off it before it was sunk or I wouldn't be typing this right now.

    Thanks again for the welcome - I'll post a profile pic of myself a little later.


    Take care,


    Steve
     
  14. AussieNipper

    AussieNipper Member

    Hi Steve, welcome to the forum.

    Regards,

    Nipper.
     
  15. Steve Leach

    Steve Leach Strategy junkie

    Ok, I have my Grandfather's name and rank:

    Reginald Albert Williams
    Royal Navy Warrant Officer
    HMS Hood

    If someone could point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated. Where would be the best place to find his naval record or record of decorations?
     
  16. Steve Leach

    Steve Leach Strategy junkie

    Interesting. Couldn't find him in the National Archives officers records, but (I think) found him listed as a seaman:


    Name Williams, Reginald Albert Official Number: J29569 Place of Birth: Portsmouth, Hampshire Date 17 September 1898 Catalogue reference ADM 188/706[​IMG] Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services


    EDIT: on closer inspection, its not clear that the date of 17 Spetember 1898 is a date of birth - it could be the date of entry - which would make it too early to be him. Not having much joy with the national archives TBF.
     
  17. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Steve,

    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  18. Steve Leach

    Steve Leach Strategy junkie

    For those who are interested, a while back I posted a thread about my grandfather's medal, which was left to me. I've since found out a bit more about it and taken a picture.

    I've posted this in the barracks because it turns out this medal is pre-ww2. It was actually awarded in 1920.

    This is a Gold Presidential Lifesaving Medal. It's actually made of solid gold and worth around £2500 - £3000 (not for sale obviously).

    On the front it reads:
    Presented by the President of the United States. (‘E. Plurs. Unum’ on the brooch bar)

    On the back:
    Reginald Albert Williams, Seaman, H.M.S. Calcutta, In Recognition of His Heroic Services to the Master and Crew of the American Steamship Balabac at the Time of the Burning of that Vessel on March 6 1920’.

    I think it's pretty cool. :)

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Steve, I agree that is pretty 'cool' to say the least!
    Have you found out anything about the event?
    Mike
     
  20. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    I've posted this in the barracks because it turns out this medal is pre-ww2. It was actually awarded in 1920.

    Steve
    I've moved it back to your intro thread, as I am sure those who posted/were subscribed to this would want to know about your findings.

    Lovely memento to have, thanks for the update.

    All the best
    Diane
     

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