German War Graves

Discussion in 'Axis Units' started by Shörner, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    but some are WW2...

    The CWGC listing (before it went 'offline') gave a date range for KRISMER.

    Name: KRISMER, WALTER
    Initials: W
    Nationality: German
    Rank: Soldier
    Regiment: German Army
    Date of Death: between 31/12/1947 and 08/06/1948
    Service No: 514229
    Casualty Type: Foreign National
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Sect M Grave 206.
    Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE WAR CEMETERY

    Name: RAUTENBERG, WILLI
    Initials: W
    Nationality: German
    Rank: Airman
    Regiment: German Air Force
    Date of Death: 21/08/1940
    Service No: SCH KP B 10/J R
    Casuality Type: Foreign National
    Grave/Memorial Reference: 4. F. 4.
    Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE WAR CEMETERY
     
  2. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    There are some German burials in Bayeux (CCWGCC) I can't recall how many - approx. 20 as far as I can recall , all in a small section opposite the British dead.

    The German cemeteries have an atmosphere which is quite unique to them ( seems that way to me anyway) , last year on "the 6th" it was certainly "different" to observe the contrast between the main US cemtery and that in la cambe several hundred people wandering through the US and less than 10 in the German .
     
  3. rommel_uk

    rommel_uk Junior Member

    Firstly i am sorry it has been soooo long to get intouch again ,i went to cannock chase but found no one by the name of Rammler or close. i spent 2-3 hours there looking around and found some unusual names. It is a beautiful grave yard (as far as they go sorry) for a german site anyway , most are bleak to look at but the groundsman here seem to make it look bright and nice. Even though my relatives are all Irish or british (yet to confirm some in the states lol) when i go to the chase i feel at home and i can think ,does that sound strange ? anyway got to go again going to italy throughout the next couple of days so take care speak soon
     
  4. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

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  5. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    The German cemeteries have an atmosphere which is quite unique to them ( seems that way to me anyway) , last year on "the 6th" it was certainly "different" to observe the contrast between the main US cemtery and that in la cambe several hundred people wandering through the US and less than 10 in the German .

    James,

    I have to agree with you about the atmosphere. It is certainly different and most soldiers are buried in Twos and Threes.
    I believe that this is due to the thought that the soldiers should always be buried together with a friend or comrade(s).

    Regards

    Tom
     
  6. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    It is certainly different and most soldiers are buried in Twos and Threes.
    I believe that this is due to the thought that the soldiers should always be buried together with a friend or comrade(s).


    It's actually far less romantic than that. It's to save space (the germans in ex-occupied territories were, of course, given far less land on which to bury their dead than others) and for aesthetic reasoning. Most german cemeteries are "concentration" cemeteries and tend to have a high number of graves in a smaller area. once upon a time, the majority of those buried in german cemeteries would have had individual markers, but imagine how cluttered somewhere the size of Langemark VdK cemetery (for example) would look with 30,000+ individual grave markers. For this reason, German graves are encountered with 2, 4 or even 20+ names inscribed.

    One cemetery in which each cross represents one person is at Ysellsteyn in the Netherlands - the area given up to this cemetery is vast and the effect is stunning.

    Dave.
     
  7. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Dave,

    Thanks very much for your explanation. It is nice to know the history behind these decisions.

    Regards

    Tom
     
  8. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

  9. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

    found these german graves in North Cemetery, Hull, with one Italian amongst them

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  10. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    Hi
    I have all the German Headstones and others that are in the Cannock Chase War Cemetery NOT the German War Cemetery. Let me know if one is required. I will be at a later stage putting a link to the website I have uploaded them onto.
     
  11. BulgarianSoldier

    BulgarianSoldier Senior Member

    Could somebody post some photos of german graves in occupied territory, like maybe in France.. But i need some recent photos, not black and white photos taken back in ww2.
    I want to see in what condition those graves are kept.
     
  12. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

  13. BulgarianSoldier

    BulgarianSoldier Senior Member

    Hi see this thead by JamesS - post#3 La Cambe:
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/ww2-battlefields-today/19880-normandy-65th-2009-a.html
    Thank you dbf, i see that the graves are kept in great condition.
    I wanted to compare them with graves of Bulgarian soldiers in Macedonia, which are very poorly mained, and now macedonians want those graves dug up, and all the bones, placed in one grave, which is a violation of Geneva convention and a violation of the christian dogma.
     
  14. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi,

    According to the records he is buried in Tobruk Cemetery.

    Otto Paritschke ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Tobruk (Libyen) .

    Zum Gedenken/ In memory
    Nachname /Surname: Paritschke
    Vorname /First name: Otto
    Dienstgrad / Rank: Gefreiter
    Geburtsdatum / DOB: 12.02.1920
    Geburtsort/ Place of birth: Berlin-Charlottenburg
    Todes-/Vermisstendatum / Date of death/ reported missing: 16.08.1941
    Todes-/Vermisstenort Place of death / reported missing:


    Kriegsgräberstätte Tobruk

    Frau Rommel at Tobruk ceremony; Pathe News
    British Pathe - GERMAN MEMORIAL

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  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    a question

    having recently been out and about visiting cemeteries taking photos for fellow members I do not recall seeing any graves of German military.

    one cemetery has a few German combatants buried with the graves owned by the CWGC but the graves are not marked.
    apologies if this has been asked before.

    Is this normal procedure

    thank you
     
  16. Joe Potter

    Joe Potter Junior Member

    Hi CL1,
    Could you please name the Cemetery that has unmarked German graves? the answer could be that these graves were exhumed in the early 1960's and moved to the German Military Cemetery at Cannock Chase.
    Regards
    Joe
     
  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Hi CL1,
    Could you please name the Cemetery that has unmarked German graves? the answer could be that these graves were exhumed in the early 1960's and moved to the German Military Cemetery at Cannock Chase.
    Regards
    Joe

    Hello Joe

    yes indeed it is Hatfield Road cemetery St Albans ,Hertfordshire

    War Graves
    There are over 200 war graves in the Cemetery, mainly in two sections for each of
    the World Wars, although some can be found scattered amongst other graves.
    Local hospitals were requisitioned as Military Hospitals in St Albans, Napsbury
    Hospital during World War One and Hill End Hospital during World War Two, and
    many of the graves are of soldiers that died in the hospitals from war injuries or
    illness. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission, who owns the burial rights
    to the graves, helps us to maintain these sections, and the other scattered
    memorials, to a very high standard and the graves are a key feature of the
    cemetery. St Albans City and District Council are very proud that Hatfield Road
    Cemetery is the last resting place of so many military personnel including those
    from New Zealand, Australia and Canada and honours their memory in the annual
    Anzac Day service (see A 6.10). There are also a few graves of German Prisoners
    of War in the cemetery, who died at the Military Hospital; the Commonwealth War
    Graves Commission owns the burial rights but the graves are unmarked.
    Hatfield Road Cemetery Management Plan
     
  18. jeffbubble

    jeffbubble Senior Member

    BLANDFORD CEMETERY - Dorset

    Foreign National 1914-1918

    HEINITZ, Soldier, MAX, German Army. 4th November 1918. Grave 78.

    JAGER, Soldier, KARL, German Army. 21st May 1918. Grave 77.

    Foreign National 1939-1945

    EMIG, Airman, GEORG, 62693-46. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 44.

    HARING, Airman, HELMUT, 62693-136. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 43.

    KLEINFELDT, Airman, JOACHIM, 62691-2. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 37.

    LINDEMANN, Airman, WILLI, 62693-6. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 40.

    MERGNER, Airman, WALTER, 62673-56. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 41.

    WEBER, Airman, FRIEDRICH, 62672-107. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 42.

    ZECH, Soldier, LUDWIG, 21836/M.1. German Army. 2nd July 1945. Grave 38.
     
  19. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Grimsby(Scartho Road)

    Karle Ernest THIEDE 3/2/1940 Edward ZAHN 6/11/1940

    Fritz DANZENBERGER 22/3/1941 Walter KOSLING 22/3/1941

    Hubert TOELTSCH 26/7/1943 Ludwik BLASZCZOPK 4/8/1945

    Franz SCHMIDT 1/8/1946 Waldemar BRONNY 20/3/1947

    Bruno CLUCK 12/6/1947 Viktor KOCZY 31/8/1947

    Erich SCHOPPA 5/10/1947 Heinrich KREBS 4/11/1947

    One Italian Giuseppe TEDESCO 24/12/1944
     
  20. photos of the war memorial for the dead of both wars of my home village. the population in 1938 was 1137 people. the sign reads

    "a remembrance for the dead, but a warning to the living"
     

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