but some are WW2... The CWGC listing (before it went 'offline') gave a date range for KRISMER. Name: KRISMER, WALTER Initials: W Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: between 31/12/1947 and 08/06/1948 Service No: 514229 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Sect M Grave 206. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE WAR CEMETERY Name: RAUTENBERG, WILLI Initials: W Nationality: German Rank: Airman Regiment: German Air Force Date of Death: 21/08/1940 Service No: SCH KP B 10/J R Casuality Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: 4. F. 4. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE WAR CEMETERY
There are some German burials in Bayeux (CCWGCC) I can't recall how many - approx. 20 as far as I can recall , all in a small section opposite the British dead. The German cemeteries have an atmosphere which is quite unique to them ( seems that way to me anyway) , last year on "the 6th" it was certainly "different" to observe the contrast between the main US cemtery and that in la cambe several hundred people wandering through the US and less than 10 in the German .
Firstly i am sorry it has been soooo long to get intouch again ,i went to cannock chase but found no one by the name of Rammler or close. i spent 2-3 hours there looking around and found some unusual names. It is a beautiful grave yard (as far as they go sorry) for a german site anyway , most are bleak to look at but the groundsman here seem to make it look bright and nice. Even though my relatives are all Irish or british (yet to confirm some in the states lol) when i go to the chase i feel at home and i can think ,does that sound strange ? anyway got to go again going to italy throughout the next couple of days so take care speak soon
The German cemeteries have an atmosphere which is quite unique to them ( seems that way to me anyway) , last year on "the 6th" it was certainly "different" to observe the contrast between the main US cemtery and that in la cambe several hundred people wandering through the US and less than 10 in the German . James, I have to agree with you about the atmosphere. It is certainly different and most soldiers are buried in Twos and Threes. I believe that this is due to the thought that the soldiers should always be buried together with a friend or comrade(s). Regards Tom
It is certainly different and most soldiers are buried in Twos and Threes. I believe that this is due to the thought that the soldiers should always be buried together with a friend or comrade(s). It's actually far less romantic than that. It's to save space (the germans in ex-occupied territories were, of course, given far less land on which to bury their dead than others) and for aesthetic reasoning. Most german cemeteries are "concentration" cemeteries and tend to have a high number of graves in a smaller area. once upon a time, the majority of those buried in german cemeteries would have had individual markers, but imagine how cluttered somewhere the size of Langemark VdK cemetery (for example) would look with 30,000+ individual grave markers. For this reason, German graves are encountered with 2, 4 or even 20+ names inscribed. One cemetery in which each cross represents one person is at Ysellsteyn in the Netherlands - the area given up to this cemetery is vast and the effect is stunning. Dave.
Dave, Thanks very much for your explanation. It is nice to know the history behind these decisions. Regards Tom
This site seems more interesting: Onlineprojekt Gefallenendenkmäler German War Memorial Website - English - Onlineprojekt Gefallenendenkmäler Jan.
Hi I have all the German Headstones and others that are in the Cannock Chase War Cemetery NOT the German War Cemetery. Let me know if one is required. I will be at a later stage putting a link to the website I have uploaded them onto.
Could somebody post some photos of german graves in occupied territory, like maybe in France.. But i need some recent photos, not black and white photos taken back in ww2. I want to see in what condition those graves are kept.
Could somebody post some photos of german graves in occupied territory, like maybe in France.. But i need some recent photos, not black and white photos taken back in ww2. I want to see in what condition those graves are kept. Hi see this thead by JamesS - post#3 La Cambe: http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/ww2-battlefields-today/19880-normandy-65th-2009-a.html
Hi see this thead by JamesS - post#3 La Cambe: http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/ww2-battlefields-today/19880-normandy-65th-2009-a.html Thank you dbf, i see that the graves are kept in great condition. I wanted to compare them with graves of Bulgarian soldiers in Macedonia, which are very poorly mained, and now macedonians want those graves dug up, and all the bones, placed in one grave, which is a violation of Geneva convention and a violation of the christian dogma.
Hi, According to the records he is buried in Tobruk Cemetery. Otto Paritschke ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Tobruk (Libyen) . Zum Gedenken/ In memory Nachname /Surname: Paritschke Vorname /First name: Otto Dienstgrad / Rank: Gefreiter Geburtsdatum / DOB: 12.02.1920 Geburtsort/ Place of birth: Berlin-Charlottenburg Todes-/Vermisstendatum / Date of death/ reported missing: 16.08.1941 Todes-/Vermisstenort Place of death / reported missing: Kriegsgräberstätte Tobruk Frau Rommel at Tobruk ceremony; Pathe News British Pathe - GERMAN MEMORIAL From same source:
a question having recently been out and about visiting cemeteries taking photos for fellow members I do not recall seeing any graves of German military. one cemetery has a few German combatants buried with the graves owned by the CWGC but the graves are not marked. apologies if this has been asked before. Is this normal procedure thank you
Hi CL1, Could you please name the Cemetery that has unmarked German graves? the answer could be that these graves were exhumed in the early 1960's and moved to the German Military Cemetery at Cannock Chase. Regards Joe
Hi CL1, Could you please name the Cemetery that has unmarked German graves? the answer could be that these graves were exhumed in the early 1960's and moved to the German Military Cemetery at Cannock Chase. Regards Joe Hello Joe yes indeed it is Hatfield Road cemetery St Albans ,Hertfordshire War Graves There are over 200 war graves in the Cemetery, mainly in two sections for each of the World Wars, although some can be found scattered amongst other graves. Local hospitals were requisitioned as Military Hospitals in St Albans, Napsbury Hospital during World War One and Hill End Hospital during World War Two, and many of the graves are of soldiers that died in the hospitals from war injuries or illness. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission, who owns the burial rights to the graves, helps us to maintain these sections, and the other scattered memorials, to a very high standard and the graves are a key feature of the cemetery. St Albans City and District Council are very proud that Hatfield Road Cemetery is the last resting place of so many military personnel including those from New Zealand, Australia and Canada and honours their memory in the annual Anzac Day service (see A 6.10). There are also a few graves of German Prisoners of War in the cemetery, who died at the Military Hospital; the Commonwealth War Graves Commission owns the burial rights but the graves are unmarked. Hatfield Road Cemetery Management Plan
BLANDFORD CEMETERY - Dorset Foreign National 1914-1918 HEINITZ, Soldier, MAX, German Army. 4th November 1918. Grave 78. JAGER, Soldier, KARL, German Army. 21st May 1918. Grave 77. Foreign National 1939-1945 EMIG, Airman, GEORG, 62693-46. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 44. HARING, Airman, HELMUT, 62693-136. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 43. KLEINFELDT, Airman, JOACHIM, 62691-2. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 37. LINDEMANN, Airman, WILLI, 62693-6. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 40. MERGNER, Airman, WALTER, 62673-56. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 41. WEBER, Airman, FRIEDRICH, 62672-107. German Air Force. 1st June 1941. Grave 42. ZECH, Soldier, LUDWIG, 21836/M.1. German Army. 2nd July 1945. Grave 38.
Grimsby(Scartho Road) Karle Ernest THIEDE 3/2/1940 Edward ZAHN 6/11/1940 Fritz DANZENBERGER 22/3/1941 Walter KOSLING 22/3/1941 Hubert TOELTSCH 26/7/1943 Ludwik BLASZCZOPK 4/8/1945 Franz SCHMIDT 1/8/1946 Waldemar BRONNY 20/3/1947 Bruno CLUCK 12/6/1947 Viktor KOCZY 31/8/1947 Erich SCHOPPA 5/10/1947 Heinrich KREBS 4/11/1947 One Italian Giuseppe TEDESCO 24/12/1944
photos of the war memorial for the dead of both wars of my home village. the population in 1938 was 1137 people. the sign reads "a remembrance for the dead, but a warning to the living"