German Flying Saucers (Nazi UFOS)

Here is a collage I created with screenshots from all of the videos concerning Nazi & Military Saucers:

(If some of these images take a while to upload, bear with me. I had to upload them on Freewebs.)

Sightings
For those of you who have not seen the video, it shows the American Avorcar:
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOSIGHTINGS1.bmp

http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOSIGHTINGS2.bmp

Exposing The German Tesla Free Energy Program
This video was horribly made, but it had some interesting information. It was basically an interview with a Texan man who has worked on Project Silverbug:
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHOWTHEYFLY1.bmp

I thought this device was pretty interesting, it appears to be a compass of some sort, but the show never fully explains it:
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHOWTHEYFLY2.bmp

Unknown Film
This one shows a saucer being polished by a man, and then as it's elevating in the air there appears to be a man standing on it, then the video cuts short:






The History Channel's Real UFOS
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHISTORYCHANNEL1.bmp

The Germans were the first ones to come up with Flying Saucer Ideas.

Victor Schauberger's saucer "That could manuever like a helicopter, but travel at supersonic speeds, undetected by the enemy. Schauberger's craft utilized a tornado like vortex, which produced magnetic effects causing levitation."
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHISTORYCHANNEL2.bmp

After WW2, the former allies became enemies, and a race to capture the German Scientists who worked on the Nazi Flying Saucer Projects began.

The reason why the military covered up the Roswell incident isn't because they didn't want the public to know that aliens were among us. They wanted to cover it up because they feared that the Russians had been able to successfully build flying saucers before the americans. Andreas Epp was one of the German Scientists that the Russians hired after the war. Victor Shauberger and many others were hired by the Americans.

All the alien stuff behind the UFO fad was the perfect disguise for the US Military to keep the public away from the fact that the flying saucers are actually Human Made. (The US even admitted all this information in the early 1990s to the public).

Over in Area-51 the US Military was testing new kinds of aircraft:
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHISTORYCHANNEL3.bmp

Another one was called "Project Mogul".

Before all these American top secret projects began, there was a "Project Y" started by Canadian John Frost, who was apparently in the loop on Nazi Saucer programs and was quite fascinated by them. This project was an attempt to build a Spade Shaped Aircraft based around a circular pancake engine. It would be able to take off from the ground vertically, and fly as a supersonic interseptor.
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHISTORYCHANNEL4.bmp

This design had utterly failed, So he started another project called "Project Y-2" in which he and his team designed a flying saucer:
http://www.freewebs.com/democracydischarge/NAZIUFOHISTORYCHANNEL5.bmp

Project Y-2 was a completely circular aircraft, now using a rotor system in the center of it, and multiple engines on the outside edge, powering that rotor. Giving it vertical takeoff and eventually direction so it could fly into altitudes that no one else could guess.

After this was made the United States bought this type of aircraft from Frost. But Frost said that using this flying saucer would be deadly. When taking a test flight in Canada upon landing, it lost brief control, spun out, and almost crushed the research building.

This encouraged both the Americans and Canadians to build a smaller prototype of this aircraft, just for tests. This was the Avorcar.

All the designs used in Project Y, and Project Y-2 were based on Nazi Flying Saucer Technology.

This is the history of military flying saucers from World War 2 to about 1960.

 

Wow those pictures are really cool.

 

yea, i know. Did they use them in battle?

 

No, don't you think it would be more well known if the nazis used real flying saucers in a battle?

 

The stealth Bomber is based on all the flying saucer research. The Germans did make a few saucers. Mostlly Prototypes. Some were enacted into battle. But the war in europe had ended too soon before the germans could send more of the saucers to the air.

 

Did they use them in battle? There is no proof that they got them to work at all. I have still not seen any actuall evidence. Repeating the transcripts from dodgy documentaries made to excite the daytime viewing of the US 'trailer trash' unemployed, prove absolutly nothing. In fact, there is more compelling evidence against Nazi Flying saucers being developed by the USA than for.

 

The Americans along with the russians and canadians took the technology from the germans who had made some saucers. Why must you always deny that the germans were able to send some to the sky? The history channel says they have, BBC says they have. What is there not to believe? It's not like they had a whole army of these saucers. Mostly prototypes and some real ones.

The history channel said that the stealth bomber is based on flying saucer research. In fact america and canada put a stop to developing flying saucers in order to work on the stealth bomber. Because there were too many kinks to work out of the saucer design. But there are still rumours that America's air force has succesfully made flying saucers.

"This episode looks at top secret flying saucer designs of the Air Force, with specific dates, times and locales of flights that may point to the real explanation behind the many UFO sightings beginning in 1947, and why the saucer design was abandoned for stealth technology. TVPG cc"
- History Channel

All the original flying saucer designs ever used by any country in the world were taken from the germans. The Stealth Bomber and its technology was based on flying saucer technology.

The whole idea the Germans had behind the flying saucers was to make a super air fighter that could be undetected by enemy radar. Sound familiar?

 

I have said before, that there is no technology taken from the Germans after the war that is still secret. There is no technology developed since the war that remained so secret that was not at least acknowledged by the developing country within about 10 years of it's development. Photos are published, reports are written and it is reported in the serious military jornals.

None of that has happened with flying saucers after 60 years.

If the Germans were flying their 'flying saucers' way back in the 1940s using 1940s technology, why do you say that the americans have still not perfected their saucers? It's been in development for 60 years. That's a long time to keep such development secret, and if you haven't got it right after 60 years, and it's been done before, there's something wrong.

If flying saucers can fly as well and as fast as the reported sightings of UFOs say they can, why did the US, Russia, China and Europe spend billions on rocket based space travel and still do so if there is a better alternative. Surely given the two options in 1946 of developing the rocket, with all the accidents and loss of life that entailed for the Russians and the Americans, or taking a working prototype and developing the flying saucer for space travel or weapon delivery, which would you have gone for. And more to the point, why keep one top secret, and have reports on TV about the other?

Sorry, but no matter how many stills from so called documentaries that are actually made as entertainment for the gullible masses you show on here, it proves nothing when compared to the facts as they stand. If they existed, we would by now know everything about them, instead of them being reported next to documentaries on the 'Bermnuda Triangle', the Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster.

 

None of that has happened with flying saucers after 60 years.

Are you saying that absolutely nothing has been done with flying saucers over that whole time span I transcripted from the history channel. Or are you saying that nothing has been accomplished with them?

I have said before, that there is no technology taken from the Germans after the war that is still secret.

Lot's of German designs during ww2 have still not been exposed to the public yet. In fact there are many events in Germany that have been relatively kept secret. For example that atomic bomb that went off in january 1945 in Germany during one of the testings of it.

If the Germans were flying their 'flying saucers' way back in the 1940s using 1940s technology, why do you say that the americans have still not perfected their saucers? It's been in development for 60 years. That's a long time to keep such development secret, and if you haven't got it right after 60 years, and it's been done before, there's something wrong.

They americans at first failed with the flying saucer design. Then they actually suceeded in making one. But then they decided that another design would be better. This is where the Stealth Bomber comes in. The reason why there's no video footage of the successfully, mach 1 speed flying saucer is because they don't want to expose it to the public for some reason.




http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1
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Many retired Air Force workers veterans have come forth admitting the existence of an American Flying saucer craft.

Is it really that unbelievable that countires have made these and used these?

 

Lot's of German designs during ww2 have still not been exposed to the public yet. In fact there are many events in Germany that have been relatively kept secret. For example that atomic bomb that went off in january 1945 in Germany during one of the testings of it

Well, that just about does it. How can I believe a single word you say is true now? That just about ends the discussion. Lets just say I am in contact with people who are responsible for nuclear and chemical contaminaton over the whole of germany and has also worked in Poland and Parts of the old Soviet Union.

There were no nuclear detonation zones in Germany.

 

That was just a bunch of heresay that atomic bomb.

But since I am growing tired of trying to convince you of the existence of these flying saucers here's some new information I have obtained that is most likely true that you and I can both agree on.

1. The Germans did have plans for flying saucers, and made a few prototypes, but never used them because the war in Europe had already ended. They wanted to make a plane that could be undetected by enemy radar. Thus, starting the whole idea of the future-be Stealth technology.

2. After the war The Canadians started project Y, which was an attempt to make a spear shaped, tailess aircraft. But that failed.

3. They started project Y-2 which was to design a flying saucer. But it had failed too.

4. The Americans then joined in on working with the canadians on a smaller flying saucer with hopes that it would prove successful. This was known as the Avorcar (the saucer) this was project silvberbug. But the design failed as well.

5. Over the course of the time project silverbug was enacted the russians hired german scientists to try to make flying saucers of their own, but proved unsuccessful.

6. The flying saucer idea was trashed and the americans worked on a new type of aircraft (The Stealth Bomber.)

7. The stealth bomber was successful and it was largely based around the nazi flying saucer technology which the canadians and the americans tried to use for their own flying saucers.

8. In conclusion, no flying saucers were ever used in battle, but they were developed. And many people today think that the Americans have successfully made full functioning, mach 1 flying saucers in the last 3 years. Even though they have failed with them in the past.

 

That was just a bunch of heresay that atomic bomb.
There's a turn around. It looks like you say whatever you want until found out and then change the story. After all, you did say:-
In fact there are many events in Germany that have been relatively kept secret. For example that atomic bomb that went off in january 1945 in Germany during one of the testings of it.

By using the phrase 'In fact' you were implying that what you were forwarding was true and coroberated, not 'hearsay', You even quote the month that the Atomic Bomb was supposed to have been tested, and narrow it down to Germany. Did you not think that a nuclear test in a country the size of Germany wouldn't be noticed? You think they could hide the radioactivity? Then kept secret for 60 years? You didn't say "but it's only hearsay", you stated it as fact.

So as I said at the very beginning of this thread, and still say now, I don't have to agree that any of those facts you listed are facts, without actual evidence coroberating them.

Note evidence and facts. Not dodgy documentries on the History Channel, not in unsubstantiated books full of artists impressions and wild stories that the research stations the Germans had like many other countries, were used to develop the flying saucer, and not dodgy videos sold in specialist UFO shops that are made to give fancifull UFOist spotters hope that they aren't actually stupid.

I mean solid evidence published in a respectable military journal such as 'Recognition' or 'Janes World Aircraft'. Because if they existed/exist, there would be a reference in Janes to say so. As far as I'm aware there isn't and there can be only one reason for that, and I'm affraid you probably aren't going to like that reason as it'll mean you've been spending your well earned money on fantasy books and videos.

I'm sorry if that sounds a little harsh, but sometimes the truth isn't what you want to hear and can hurt.

 

There were no nuclear detonation zones in Germany.
THINK AGAIN!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm
(ok maybe it didn't happen in janaury, but it happened in march. I only knew it was near the end of the war at the time of my recent post.)

1. The Germans did have plans for flying saucers, and made a few prototypes, but never used them because the war in Europe had already ended. They wanted to make a plane that could be undetected by enemy radar. Thus, starting the whole idea of the future-be Stealth technology.

2. After the war The Canadians started project Y, which was an attempt to make a spear shaped, tailess aircraft. But that failed.

3. They started project Y-2 which was to design a flying saucer. But it had failed too.

4. The Americans then joined in on working with the canadians on a smaller flying saucer with hopes that it would prove successful. This was known as the Avorcar (the saucer) this was project silvberbug. But the design failed as well.

5. Over the course of the time project silverbug was enacted the russians hired german scientists to try to make flying saucers of their own, but proved unsuccessful.

6. The flying saucer idea was trashed and the americans worked on a new type of aircraft (The Stealth Bomber.)

7. The stealth bomber was successful and it was largely based around the nazi flying saucer technology which the canadians and the americans tried to use for their own flying saucers.

8. In conclusion, no flying saucers were ever used in battle, but they were developed. And many people today think that the Americans have successfully made full functioning, mach 1 flying saucers in the last 3 years. Even though they have failed with them in the past.

All of this is true, how can you say it is not? I can't be spending all of my time looking all over the web for clean evidence, but i do have a number of videos showing the avorcar during one of its public test flights (in which it fails to do much of anything except hover).

Military flying saucers

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<!-- start content --> The development of disk shaped aircraft — or military "flying saucers" — apparently dates back to World War II. Since much of the work has been highly classified, many details are uncertain.
A number of disk-shaped aircraft have been proposed over the years, a few being built. The best documented of these was Arthur Sack's experimental Sack AS-6, a small light plane built just before the start of World War II.
During the war some research was carried out by a number of designers on circular wings. Chance-Vought led a series of designs that eventually resulted in the Vought Flying Flapjack, perhaps the first design explicitly designed as a disk for aerodynamic reasons. Generally wings with large chord (front to back length) as opposed to span (side to side), a measure known as aspect ratio, have very poor performance due to high induced drag. However one way to avoid this problem is to taper the wingtips to a point, which is why the Supermarine Spitfire used an elliptical planform. In the Flapjack this was taken to an extreme, resulting in a plane with a huge wing and very low wing loading, allowing it to take off from aircraft carriers with ease. By the time the design was flying in the post-war era, jet engines had rendered the design obsolete and the US Navy lost interest.
After the war, German scientist Andreas Epp claimed credit for initiating the idea of a saucer shaped aircraft during the war, a development of his work on a small circular target drone. Whether his idea or not, the concept was supposedly developed in Nazi Germany although claims of flying prototypes seem unlikely. Declassified CIA files reveal that a number of reports had been gathered from scientists in Germany of disk-like aircraft designs, but these are of dubious quality.
According to Epp, several German scientists who had worked on the project, and Epp who had not, were supposedly recruited by the Soviet Union, for whom they went on to design prototype circular craft. Supporting evidence for this claim seems to be lacking. Epp claimed to have walked out of the Soviet program in 1947, taking his knowledge to work for the USA.
In the US, a number of experimental saucer shaped craft were apparently developed as black projects by Lockheed Corporation for the USAF, and by Convair for the CIA. The saucer had the advantages of being a Vertical take-off and landing design (so avoiding the need for easily damaged runways), while the shape was well suited to diffusing radar and so making the craft stealthy. These early designs were apparently powered by turbojets, which powered a horizontal rotor to provide lift using the Coanda effect.
In an apparent attempt to quell speculation about the military nature of flying saucers, a press conference was held in July 1952, at which Major John A. Sandford denied any knowledge of the craft, and retired Major General Donald E. Keyhoe declared his belief that they were of alien origin. In 1957 Keyhoe became head of the civilian UFO group NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena), which is believed to have also been infiltrated by several covert members of the CIA.
Meanwhile in Canada, the Avro Canada company was also attempting to develop saucer shaped craft, funded (initially) by the Canadian government. John Frost had initiated the design while experimenting with different ways to build more efficient jet engines, eventually settling on a large disk-shaped device with the exhaust towards the outside. He then wrapped the smallest possible airframe around the engine, piping the exhausts to the rear. For VTOL the aircraft sat on its tail for takeoff and landing, generating lift in forward flight as a large delta wing.
Frost also became interested in the Coanda effect to produce lift, eventually abandoning the original delta wing design and replacing it with a true disk. In this model the exhaust was directed downward around the entire disk by a flap ringing the aircraft, allowing it to take off and land "flat". Once in flight the flap would be angled slightly, producing a small downforce while being directed to the rear. Little lift would be generated by conventional means, the engine exhaust would instead be used to build an "artificial wing" by directing the airflow around the craft. He offered a number of increasingly dramatic performance estimates, generally claiming Mach 4 performance at 80,000 ft (24,000 m), at which point the USAF took over funding under Weapon System 606A. The result was a 29 foot (8.9 m) diameter supersonic Project Y2.
Testing soon revealed that the entire concept was unworkable; the craft would be highly unstable at supersonic speeds. Avro nevertheless continued work on the project as a subsonic design known as Project Silver Bug. Silver Bug was of interest to the US Army, who was looking for solutions for battlefield transport and support, and they took over most of the project funding. The final outcome of Silver Bug was the Avrocar or VZ-9AV, effectively (and unintentionally) a prototype hovercraft rather than an aircraft, which was made public in 1961. After Avro experienced financial difficulties in 1959, funding for future projects was apparently directed to the Bell Aircraft Corporation. Meanwhile the helicopter had proven to be the solution the Army was looking for.
During the 1980s, reports of triangular shaped UFOs revealed the existence of the F-117 Nighthawk — another black project — which became public in November 1988. See also black triangles.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_flying_saucers

 

Using Wikipedia and a ling to the BBC news that states that someone claimed that there was a nuclear detonation. Claims. That's not evidence, that's what you do on here. Say anything you heard is real. There is no solid evidence. So sort yourself out.

 

Claims are types of evidence! And plus, there must be something behind this whole saucer idea and the atomic bomb in germany. After all, why would so many people talk about it if it didn't have some truth to it?

 

Claims are types of evidence! And plus, there must be something behind this whole saucer idea and the atomic bomb in germany. After all, why would so many people talk about it if it didn't have some truth to it?

I can claim to be anything I want to be.... it doesn't make it true does it?

People claim to be all sorts of things and to have done all sorts of things that turn out not to be true. It's a form of attention seeking.

 

Out of all of this are you saying that no person on this earth has ever deisgned a flying saucer?

 

That's not the argument. But I doubt that the Nazis had a working, flying saucer or any paractical working model. I also doubt that anyone has developed a working flying saucer of any real use.

 

They nazis had prototypes, and the americans alongwith the canadians worked on project Silverbug too make a small saucer. Which they let the public see. And it's not radical to believe that an atom bomb went off in germany, because they spent the last half of the war working endlessely on one.

Here is the Avorcar Flying Saucer Develop By the Americans:










There are some pictures of the public preformance of the avorcar. If you really want SOLID PROOF, I will upload a video of it's pathetic run.