German Flying Saucers (Nazi UFOS)

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  1. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    I am sure this topic has not been discussed before on this forum, seeing as i have searched for it using the keywords in the posting title.

    Near the end of World War 2 the Germans started to become desprate in searching for new ways to try to come back into the war. Himmler thought that Germany was going to recover because he misinterpretated one of Nostradamus's predictions. All in the while in october 1944 Hitler ordered the Luftwaffe to start comming up with new ideas for aircraft. They tried many wacky ideas for planes but the most intruiging of all the design plans was the design for a "flying saucer like" aircraft (later labeled with english after the americans won the war) [​IMG]

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    More in depth details of this aircraft can be found in this PDF file http://www.cufon.org/cufon/Silverbug.pdf

    It is said that the aircraft was never actually built until after the war.
    America then started hiring german scientists to continue work on these saucers, known as "Project Silverbug".

    The US military was testing and flying UFO design aircraft in the 40's and 50's. They had as many as 35 saucer projects with vertical lift off and descent. The most highly classified was known by code name Silverbug.
    Near the end of WWII the allied forces had gained superiorty over the Germans. Or so it seemed. The Germans were looking for a superior craft. The SSE and Vril societies were building craft that looked like UFO's and were capable of vertical take-off's and landings because most of their runways had been destroyed.
    The project was headed by Dr. Richard Mehta, sometimes known as the 'Father of Saucerology'. He was hired by the German air force to build a saucer shaped craft that could vertically ascend and shoot down allied planes with rockets. Allegedly the war ended before Metha developed his ship.
    The American government recruited some of the German scientists after the war to go to Canada and continue their work. Dr. Metha was one of these men. He work on a secret aircraft project at AVROW Aeronautics in Canada. These were saucer type flying machines.
    These saucers were designed to 2300 miles per hour at an altitude of 80,000 feet. Though designed in 1955 the papers describing these design were not declassified until 1995. For over 40 year America's #1 top flying saucer project was top secret.
    In the 1950's in Canada Avro revealed the Avrocar to the public.

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    In 1953 the Toronto Star reported on the development by Avro Canada of a disc-shaped VTOL (Vertical Takeoff and Landing) aircraft.
    In February it was officially announced that a mock-up of the craft, designed by British engineer John Frost and developed by the Malton, Ontario plant, had been made - and indeed, photographs exist of technicians smiling from its twin cockpits.
    The project of which the Avro-car was a part was originally known as Project Y, funded by Canada, but was taken over by the U.S. Air Force in late 1953 - early 1954, as their Project 606, with an interest by the US Army.
    It was hoped that the vehicle, designated VZ-9V, would ascend vertically and reach flight speeds of 1,500 mph (2,400 km/hr). The President of Avro Canada wrote in Aero News that the prototype being built was so revolutionary that it would make other designs obsolete.
    The craft was officially named the Avro-Car.By 1960 about 10 million dollars had been spent on the project. During tests, the aircraft could not rise more than four or five feet above the ground without becoming very unstable.
    Attempts were made to design mechanisms to increase its stability without success. It was hoped that the project would consolidate the future of the A.V. Roe company, but it was discontinued in 1961, and A.V. Roe went out of business.

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    The prototype was placed in a military museum at Fort Eustis, Virginia. One view was that the failed project was simply window-dressing to cover tests of a captured alien flying disc.
    The Avro-Car was (depending on the source of the information) 18 or 25 feet in diameter, and weighed 3600 lb.


    It was powered by three centrally mounted gas turbine engines driving a 5 feet diam. central fan used for vertical takeoff. Once in the air the turbo-jet exhaust would be shifted to the rear giving the vehicle forward thrust to allow the aerodynamic body to generate lift.
    Sixty years later, we have other VTOL aircraft, including circular drones with a central propeller, undoubtedly mistaken for extraterrestrial aircraft on the occasion, but we still do not have a decent supersonic flying saucer of terrestrial origin.


    - from http://www.crystalinks.com/silverbug.html

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    It is also known that the Nazis have sent ships to Antartica before as well:
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    Search "Neuschwabenland" or "Nazi Antartica Bergmann" In your online Seach bars.


    More refrences:
    http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/175_naziufo1.shtml
    http://forum.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=8239&page=1
    http://www.naziufos.com/
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  2. Wise1

    Wise1 There We Are Then

    Interesting stuff, thanks for that, I just looked at my old video collection and I do have a video on this subject must watch it.
     
  3. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    They mentioned the German Saucers briefly on the History Channel when they were discussing the luftwaffe and the secret weapons of WW2. Other than a minute and a half video from the Sightings show on the Sci-Fi channel I cannot seem to find any documentaries on this subject, or videos that go into great detail.

    Think about this, if the war had been going on for about 2 more years, say. They could've had more time to make more of these. Thus, the allies would have been toast. Well, at least in the air.

    Some say Hitler faked his death, and sent artillery to a secret base in Antractica before hand, and then ran off to Argentina in a sub cutting through the Balitc sea, through the atlantic, then to argentina. Then he took a connecting voyage to Antarctica. All that is a little bit extreme if you ask me. The idea of a Fourth Reich in Antartica seems impossible. But I am positive the German Saucers were real.
     
  4. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    I thought Hitler worked down the chipshop with Elvis?
    :D
     
  5. Gnomey

    Gnomey World Travelling Doctor

    Interesting stuff Panzerfaust, thanks for posting that.
     
  6. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    There's actually a CIA document on the CIA's website regarding Hitler in Argentina. Here's an article regaurding his escape: http://www.rense.com/general54/1960.htm
    I highly doubt he actually escaped though.

    Back to the saucers, I have obtained more information.

    Hitler's obsession with the occult and astrology is well known - but
    evidence that his aerospace and rocket scientists were plundering alien
    technology to build Nazi UFOs has never gripped the public imagination.
    Maurizio Verga's tantalising web pages reveal Werner von Braun and the
    Luftwaffe design teams could have been guided by extraterrestrials, perhaps
    looting interstellar components from a crashed spaceship.
    Rumours of the Third Reich's underground bases first surfaced in the late
    Forties, coinciding with the birth of UFO sightings. America's Operation
    Paperclip was at full throttle, with the FBI smuggling Nazi war criminals
    into America to take advantage of their scientific expertise.
    Former Nazis gave America the space race edge, and von Braun's career
    followed a smooth flightpath from pilotless V2 rockets to Apollo 11 and the
    first manned moon landing.
    Verga believes the Luftwaffe developed a flying disc, in the classic saucer
    shape, which flew at Prague on February 14, 1945. His photographic evidence
    is almost certainly faked by Fifties sci-fi fans. Visit his site to enjoy
    the artist's impressions, which are a glorious delight. It may not be a
    coincidence that Americans began sighting flying saucers within three years
    of the alleged Prague test-flight and von Braun's escape to America.
    Countless UFO reports of the early Eighties turned out to be sightings of
    America's Stealth Bombers. Is it possible that the US Air Force did develop
    Nazi technology to build a fleet of saucers 50 years ago, producng the
    first wave of Unidentified Flying Objects?
    And if those spacecraft were for real, the chilling question remains: what
    are the menacing objects reported nightly in Nineties skies?

    - from UFO Folklore Center

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    The Ho-IX
    Maximum Speed 600+ mph

    To understand why the Germans didn't use rocket/jet/saucer technology to wil
    the war we must first understand the nature of Hitler's plans for transforming
    Germany into a world power.
    Most nations will examine their own past and copy those successful policies in
    their past to achieve a success outcome of their contempory foreign policies.
    This was true of Hitler and the Third Reich. Hitler looked to the policies
    Bismarck used to unite Germany under Prussian leadership and transform Germany
    into a major European power in the 19th century.
    Bismarck achieved his goals by a series of short, localized, little wars
    against Denmarck (1864), Austria (1866) and France (1870-71). Hitler also
    hoped to transform Germany into a world power through a series of short,
    localized, little wars, against Czechoslovakia in 1938, Poland in 1939 and
    against the Soviet union some time between 1941 to 1943. But things didn't
    exactly turn out the why he hoped they would.
    Hitler was able to dismember Czechoslovakia through peaceful means, though he
    would have prefered a short, localized war. He did not believe that Britain
    and France would come to the Czechs' defense any more than they were will to
    stop Germany from occupying the Rhineland in 1936, and Austria in 1938, or
    stop Italy from invading Ethopia in 1935, or intervene in the Spanish civil
    war in 1936 or stop Japan's invasion of China in 1931 and again in 1937.
    Hitler hoped to defeat the Czechs and than proceed to his next short,
    localized, little war against Poland.
    Hitler believed that the British and the French would never go to war to
    defend Poland without the aid of the Soviet Union. That is why he signed the
    non-agressiob pact with the Soviets. Without the Soviets to aid them, Hitler
    believed the British and the French would not attack Germany in the west,
    which they did not. Germany defeated and partitioned Poland with the Soviets
    in four weeks. Hitler hoped the Allies would agree to an armistise. He
    actually offered generous peace terms, including an alliance to defend the
    British Empire in Oct. 1939, and again, after the defeat of the French in June
    of 1940. Hitler even began to demobilize his armies after the defeat of
    France in the summer of 1940. He never expected the British to continue to
    resist him by themselves.
    What does all this have to do with rocket/jet/saucer technology? That fact
    is, the Germans were conducting research into rocket/jet/saucer technolgy
    throughout the 1930s and even flew the first jets in 1937. But why didn't
    they use this technology to win the war? Because Hitler never planned a WORLD
    WAR. Again! He hoped to achieve his goals through a series of short,
    localized, little wars.
    He remembered what happened to Germany in the First World War. Germany went
    on a total war footing from the outset of the war. This created terribel
    hardships on the civilian population and resulted in a revolution in 1918,
    resulting in the defeat of Germany. Hitler hoped to avoid this and never
    transformed German's industries into a total war footing until mid-way through
    1942, after Germany found itself in a world war with the United States, the
    Soviet Union and the British Empire. By this time it was late.
    Hitler never believed he would need rocket/jet/saucer technology. Germany
    only began any serious attempt to develop these technologies in 1942. As a
    result, Germany was never able to utilize rocket, jest and saucer in any
    effective way to turn the tide of the war. The V2/A4 rocket was never
    manufactured in any great numbers, and those they were able to use were used
    for strategic purposes (bombing cities) rather than what would have been more
    effective tactical purposes, (used against Allied armies in the field).
    The Germany were only able to build a little more than six hundred jets in
    late 1944 and early 1945, and very few of them were ever able to get off the
    ground. This was because German industries were being bombed around the clock
    by Allied bombers and Germany was being overrunned by Allied armies.
    The simple truth was that the fable Nazi efficiency was a myth. The Nazis
    never planned a world war and when they were faced with one, they were unable
    to take the proper steps to transform Germany onto a total war footing until
    it was to late. This is the reason why they were never able to develop and
    use technologies regard rockets, jets and flying saucers to their benefit.
     
  7. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    I don't hold any faith in the "Nazi flying saucers" idea. Most pictures are either fantasyful artists impressions or pictures of models or design theory rigs. This is a long way from having anything actualy close to flying. In fact the one impressive photo, if authentic...
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    ...shows a conventional propeller driven aircraft with a single circular aerofoil rather than two individual wings. Novel, but a long way from a 'spinning' or 'hovering' 'flying saucer' type craft.

    I would in no way take that away from the technical advances they did make in rocketry, jet aircraft design and helicopter development, sometimes in very difficult circumstances and with limited resources.

    No, for me it's just a case of seeing that they had made advances in technology and deciding that they must have gone further even if we knew nothing about it. I would say that for me to change my mind I'd have to see some really convincing photographic or film evidence of full size saucer type craft in flight under human control, otherwise it's just another one of those 'stories'.
     
  8. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    Actually, Hitler was not obsessed with astrology or the occult, but Himmler, Hess, and to a lesser extent, Goebbels, were.

    A lot of the Nazi expeditions to Tibet, the Antarctic, and other subjects of Ernst Zundel's modern obsessions were the production of Himmler's file-clerk brain.

    When Hess flew to England, a furious Hitler ordered Germany's psychics, tarot card readers, astrologers, and other seers arrested and sent to concentration camps. The Gestapo swooped, and all were hauled off. Goebbels noted in his diary that all of them were taken by surprise: none of them had predicted they would be arrested and jailed. "A poor advertisement for their profession!" the little doctor wrote.

    But in April 1945, he used horoscopes to cheer up Hitler, knowing that the increasingly desperate and demented Fuehrer would clutch at any straw. He also had his newspaper staff write horoscopes that talked about "passing through dark valleys and into sunlight," thinking German readers would believe that, if nothing else, in his propaganda newspapers.

    "One is just half of old snakes' eyes,
    "Flying saucers are filling the skies.

    "The trey is followed by Little Joe,
    "Anti-gravity makes them go."

    -- The Space Child's Mother Goose :lol:
     
  9. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    I would say that for me to change my mind I'd have to see some really convincing photographic or film evidence of full size saucer type craft in flight under human control, otherwise it's just another one of those 'stories'.

    I have obtained some video footage of The Americans testing out the flying saucer design after the war (recorded in Canada, one of the places where Project Silverbug was going on). I am just having problems with uploading it onto this forum. You can believe what you want, but the evidence is out there, You can find lots and lots of tech specs of these crafts if you would just look at this big document: http://www.cufon.org/cufon/Silverbug.pdf

    If that still isn't enough evidence for you, i suggest you take a look at this book:
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    Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1931882134/002-6805749-8704052?v=glance&n=283155

    As for Old Nazi bases in Antartica, there are probably lots of luftwaffe and kriegsmarine things there (including many unused german weapons of WW2, including the nazi saucers), and I never said Hitler was obsessed with Astrology or the occult, I said "The Nazis". I did not mention any specific one. Himmler thought that Atlantis was the continent of the Aryan race of super humans. First he thought it was in Tibet, or around that area. Nazis believed Atlantis was where Europe and Asia combined, which is partly the reason why the nazis respected the asians, because they thought they were there blood & ancenstry.
     
  10. adrian roberts

    adrian roberts Senior Member

    What advantage would a saucer shaped aircraft have over a conventional one, anyway? There is no aerodynamic reason why it would fly faster. It would be no more manouverable. It could be made to rotate and point in a different direction very quickly due to having no tail to stabilise it, but how could it be made to stop rotating? The crew would become extremely giddy and the basic laws of motion would mean that it would be no easier to actually make it move in a different direction. Control and stability would require a modern computerised fly-by-wire system.

    The circular plane shown in the photograph is very small, very slow judging by the fixed undercarriage, and is a lifting-body type, or more likely a flying wing type, not a true saucer. It may have inspired the US Navy's post-war Chance Vought F7U Cutlass - which was a developmental dead-end.

    Adrian
     
  11. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    Read The Cufon report on how it operates. It goes into great detail. Again, here is the link: http://www.cufon.org/cufon/Silverbug.pdf

    It explains how it takes off, to how it flys through the air, how it fights, and how it lands, etc. etc. etc.
     
  12. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    Nudge, nudge, heard about that Horten, nudge, nudge, say no more, flying saucers, say no more, know what I mean?
     
  13. Run N Gun

    Run N Gun Discharged

    this aircraft sorta looks like the americans "flying pancake"
     
  14. jimbotosome

    jimbotosome Discharged

    What advantage would a saucer shaped aircraft have over a conventional one, anyway? There is no aerodynamic reason why it would fly faster. It would be no more manouverable. It could be made to rotate and point in a different direction very quickly due to having no tail to stabilise it, but how could it be made to stop rotating? The crew would become extremely giddy and the basic laws of motion would mean that it would be no easier to actually make it move in a different direction. Control and stability would require a modern computerised fly-by-wire system.

    The circular plane shown in the photograph is very small, very slow judging by the fixed undercarriage, and is a lifting-body type, or more likely a flying wing type, not a true saucer. It may have inspired the US Navy's post-war Chance Vought F7U Cutlass - which was a developmental dead-end.

    <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>
    It’s not about aerodynamics. To answer that you have to first address antigravity. Antigravity in theory is moving a mass a little over ½ the speed of light would tend create a beam that repulses the gravity of masses near it by its own gravitational force, sort of like two magnets opposing each other or attracting each other. Two magnets would attract each other by the sum of their attractions where a magnet to steel is attraction is only that of the magnet itself. And the closer they get, the higher this attraction. This is also why it is harder to pull a magnet away the closer it gets to the object it attracts, or harder to move it near the pole of another magnet it repels.<o:p></o:p>
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    The theory is based on Einstein’s relativity equation of E = m c^2, where E = Energy and m = Mass and c is a constant of the speed of light, and is squared. In theory this repulsion would be used to accelerate the vehicle super fast without known speed limits but proportional to the level of repulsion meaning warp. <o:p></o:p>
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    In the theory of relativity energy and mass are interchangeable. Einstein proved that even light has mass as does all energy and the greater the mass the greater the energy and vice versa. This is why planets exhibit gravitational attraction because of their motion of rotation and size. Rotate one of them the other way and they would repel. The larger the planet, the larger the gravitational energy. There is both attraction and repulsion in a spinning object with the attraction always dominating. The idea is that if you get gravity to oppose itself you get the sum of the two as an accelerating force. That’s the theory.<o:p></o:p>
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    A saucer shape would facilitate an engine because you need gyroscopic forces (something spinning). The heavier it was and faster it spins, the more forces to attract and repel. Think of it like spinning a bicycle wheel and trying to tilt the axel of the wheel. It has rigidity to its motion and it is hard to tilt its axis on the axel. The faster it spins, the harder to change it the angle of its axis. What you feel in effect is the gravity on one side attracting the earth’s gravity and the repulsion of the other side repelling the earth gravity and why it tends to feel like it is opposing your effort to change the motion. The bigger the distance the bigger the attraction, the closer the mass the more the relative repulsion. This is why gyroscopes keep steady in an instrument on an airplane because when it banks, the motion of the spinning gyro resists the change in the axis of the gyro and since it is free floating, stays level while the rest of the instrument tilts. The term they use for explaining gyroscopic effect is “rigidity in space”.<o:p></o:p>
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    So, it is not about aerodynamics, it is about intense repulsion and attraction and controlling those on an horizontally (speed) and vertically (lift). I don’t think it has been done, it is just that theory says it can be done. The saucer is simply the most efficient shape for a mechanism to create gyroscopic forces. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.<o:p></o:p>
     
  15. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    I have obtained some video footage of The Americans testing out the flying saucer design after the war (recorded in Canada, one of the places where Project Silverbug was going on). I am just having problems with uploading it onto this forum. You can believe what you want, but the evidence is out there, You can find lots and lots of tech specs of these crafts if you would just look at this big document: http://www.cufon.org/cufon/Silverbug.pdf

    If that still isn't enough evidence for you, i suggest you take a look at this book:
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    Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/193...lance&n=283155

    Like I say, I'm not convinced. I read the 'Silverbug report' eagerly at first, expecting to have everything explained. It is supposed to be a techincal report after all. It soon turned to disapointment after finding that it had too many technical details that are inaccurate or missing. It smacks of an elaborate hoax, which although it tries to seem well thought out, it falls down on too many things. Airflow indicated as going where it wouldn't unless directed properly, technical details missed or unexplained which would normally have to be included in a real tech document or at least have references to other documents.

    No, somebody's spent a lot of time making a documnet looking real, but not real enough. There are too many people out there with too much time on their hands.

    I can't comment on the book, but I can only think that if it did actually proove anything it would be just one of many others on the subject. It's what happens with history books. The cranks print one book that gets ignored by the 'real' historians. An accurate book that proves something gets copied and reinvestigated by many other historians.

    I'd love to see the film footage and for you to prove me wrong, but I have a feeling that it's not going to some how.
     
  16. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    Here's one small video i was able to find on the internet, i haven't viewed it yet, but i doubt it's going to give any "convincable" footage or data.
    http://www.ufobras.com/ufobras_nazi_ufos.ram

    Here's an interview with a CIC Veteran:
    http://netowne.com/naziufos/boblee/index.htm

    Here's a video you can purchase that teaches you how it flys:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00032OG2S/002-6805749-8704052?v=glance&n=130
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    Yet another DVD with astounding footage:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001GSPNW/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/002-6805749-8704052?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130
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    Another: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00032OGW8/ref=pd_sbs_d_2/002-6805749-8704052?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130
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    Product Description
    DID THE ALLIES REALLY WIN WORLD WAR II?Aerospace writer and engineer Wm Lyne, offers striking testimony that: O Adolf Hitler had at least 7 body doubles and was able to escape from his Berlin "death bunker from which he fled with other Nazis to South America to start a Fourth Reich. O The true history of flying saucers is a big lie, full of deceit and government disinformation, created to conceal one basic truth...THAT MOST UFOS ARE MAN-MADE CRAFT BASED UPON GERMAN WORLD WAR TWO ANTI-GRAVITY TECHNOLOG AS FIRST DEVELOPED BY NIKOLA TESLA! O Werner von Braun, top German rocket scientist, was present in New Mexico as early as l937, and the "Roswell Crash" may have been a staged hoax to hide the truth about our government's involvement in alternative methods of propulsion, including free energy.

    As you can see i am trying to post as many resources as possible to prove the existence of this aircraft.
     
  17. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    Here's one small video i was able to find on the internet, i haven't viewed it yet, but i doubt it's going to give any "convincable" footage or data.
    http://www.ufobras.com/ufobras_nazi_ufos.ram

    Could you check the link please, it goes nowhere for me.
     
  18. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    Sorry, i'll try to find another video that hasn't had the link die.

    If i can find ripped files from those dvds on amazon on the internet i will be happy to upload them.

    Here are some pictures, you can decide for yourselves wether you think they are authentic or not:

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    The Nazis did have colonies in Antartica. It is fact that they have sent ships there before as well as flying saucers.

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    The Antarctic Enigma
    [​IMG] This invasion of the continent of Antarctica was named �Operation Highjump� and comprised of some 4700 military personnel, six helicopters, six Martin PBM flying boats, two seaplane tenders, fifteen other aircraft, thirteen US Navy support ships and one aircraft carrier; the USS Philippine Sea (left).
    It seems incredible that so shortly after a war that had decimated most of Europe and crippled global economies, an expedition to Antarctica was undertaken with so much haste (it took advantage of the first available Antarctic summer after the war), at such cost, and with so much military hardware - unless the operation was absolutely essential to the security of the United States.
    At the time of the operation, the US Navy itself was being taken apart piece by piece as the battle-tested fleet was decommissioned with its mostly civilian crew bidding farewell to the seas forever. The Navy was even reduced to further recruitment to man the few remaining ships in service (1).
    Tensions across the globe were also mounting as Russia and America edged into a Cold War, possibly a Third World War that the US would have to fight with "tragically few ships and tragically half trained men (2)." This made the sending of nearly 5,000 residual Navy personnel to a remote part of the planet where so much danger lurked in the form of icebergs, blizzards and sub-zero temperatures even more of a puzzle. The operation was also launched with incredible speed, "a matter of weeks (3)." Perhaps it would not be uncharitable to conclude that the Americans had some unfinished business connected with the war in the polar region. Indeed this was later confirmed by other events and the operation�s leader, Admiral Richard Byrd, himself.
    [​IMG]However, the official instructions issued by the then Chief of Naval Operations, Chester W. Nimitz (right), himself of German descent, were: to (a) train personnel and test material in the frigid zones; (b) consolidate and extend American sovereignty over the largest practical area of the Antarctic continent; (c) to determine the feasibility of establishing and maintaining bases in the Antarctic and to investigate possible base sites; (d) to develop techniques for establishing and maintaining air bases on the ice, (with particular attention to the later applicability of such techniques to Greenland) and (e) amplify existing knowledge of hydrographic, geographic, geological, meteorological and electromagnetic conditions in the area (4).
    Little other information was released to the media about the mission, although most journalists were suspicious of its true purpose given the huge amount of military hardware involved. The US Navy also strongly emphasised that Operation Highjump was going to be a navy show; Admiral Ramsey�s preliminary orders of 26<sup>th</sup> August 1946 stated that "the Chief of Naval Operations only will deal with other governmental agencies" and that "no diplomatic negotiations are required. No foreign observers will be accepted." Not exactly an invitation to scrutiny, even from other arms of the government.
    [​IMG]Admiral Byrd (centre), was a strategic choice as he was a national hero to the Americans; he had pioneered the technology that would be a foundation for modern polar exploration and investigation, had been repeatedly decorated, had undertaken many expeditions to Antarctica and was also the first man to fly over both poles.
    However, the task force itself, remained strictly under the military command of Rear Admiral Richard Cruzen (above, left).
    The ships of the central group entered the ice pack off the Ross Sea on 31<sup>st</sup> December 1946 and found conditions as bad as had been noted for over a century. Icebreakers such as the USCGC Burton Island (below), a ship that had only recently been commissioned and was still undergoing sea trials off the Californian coast when Operation High Jump was launched, fought to cut a way through the ice to help the men land. (Again, pulling a newly commissioned ship off trials adds to the sense of the urgency of the overall operation.)
    [​IMG]The main force was divided into three groups. The Central Group comprised of the USS Mt. Olympus (communications); USS Yancey (supply); USS Merrick (Supply); USS Sennet (submarine); USCGC Burton Island (Icebreaker) and USCGC Northwind (icebreaker.) The East Group consisted of the USS Pine Island (seaplane tender); USS Brownson (destroyer) and the USS Canisteo (tanker). Finally there was the West Group which was made up of the USS Currituck (seaplane tender); the USS Henderson (Destroyer) and the USS Capapon (tanker.) (The operation also had the aircraft carrier USS Philippine and a Base Group headed by Commander Clifford M. Campbell.
    [​IMG]Following its arrival at Antarctica, the force began a reconnaissance of the continent. Byrd himself was onboard the first of the planes to take off on 29<sup>th</sup> January 1947. Rocket propulsion tubes (JATO bottles) had been attached to the side of the aircraft and the carrier was manoeuvred for a 35mph run to help get the planes airborne. "From the vibration of the great carrier", Byrd later wrote, "I knew when the captain had got the ship up to about 30 knots (35 mph). We seemed to creep along the deck at first and it looked as if we would never make it � But when our four JATO bottles went off along the sides of the plane with a terrific, deafening noise I could see the deck fall away. I knew we had made it (5)."
    Over the next four weeks the planes spent 220 hours in the air, flying a total of 22,700 miles and taking some 70,000 aerial photographs (6).
    [​IMG]Then the mission that had been expected to last for between 6-8 months, came to an early and faltering end. The Chilean press reported that the mission had "run into trouble" and that there had been "many fatalities". (The official record, though, states that one plane crashed killing three men; a fourth man had perished on the ice; two helicopters had gone down although their crews had been rescued and a task force commander was nearly lost (7).)
    The Chilean claims to one side, it is known that the Central Group of Operation Highjump were evacuated by the Burton Island ice-breaker from the Bay of Whales (above) on 22<sup>nd</sup> February 1947; the Western Group headed home on 1<sup>st</sup> March 1947 and the Eastern Group did likewise on 4<sup>th</sup> March, a mere eight weeks after arrival.
    [​IMG]Quite what was going on is still not a matter of public record, however it is known that Byrd was immediately summoned to Washington and interrogated by the Security Services on his return after being initially �welcomed back� by Secretary of War James Forrestal (left) on 14<sup>th</sup> April 1947. (Forrestal was late to commit suicide.)
    On 5<sup>th</sup> March 1947 the �El Mercurio� newspaper of Santiago, Chile, ran the headline �On Board the Mount Olympus on the High Seas� which quoted Byrd in an interview with Lee van Atta. "Adm. Byrd declared today that it was imperative for the United States to initiate immediate defence measures against hostile regions. The Admiral further stated that he didn�t want to frighten anyone unduly but it was a bitter reality that in case of a new war the continental United States would be attacked by flying objects which could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.
    Admiral Byrd repeated the above points of view, resulting from his personal knowledge gathered both at the north and south poles, before a news conference held for International News Service." Bearing in mind that all this occurred (the search for craft that could fly from pole to pole at �incredible� speeds) a year after the war had ended with Germany defeated, makes it all the more intriguing.
    So who was the enemy that owned or flew these flying objects? Germany was apparently defeated, and there was no evidence that the new emerging enemy, Russia, had such superior technologies. Certainly there was no other known country whose activities that could explain the US invasion of Antarctica nor for the development of any craft that could fly "fly from Pole to pole with incredible speeds." Rumours began to circulate that whilst Germany had been defeated, a selection of military personnel and scientists had fled the fatherland as Allied troops swept across mainland Europe and established themselves at a base on Antarctica from where they continued to develop advanced aircraft based on extraterrestrial technologies. (It is interesting to note that at the end of the war the Allies determined that there were 250,000 Germans unaccounted for, even taking into account casualties and deaths.)
    Incredible as it may sound, there is considerable supporting evidence for these claims about a German base for, on the very eve of the Second World War, the Germans themselves had invaded part of Antarctica and claimed it for the Third Reich.
    In fact Hitler had authorised several expeditions to the poles shortly before WWII. Their stated objective was to either to rebuild and enlarge Germany�s whaling fleet or test out weaponry in severely hostile conditions. Yet, if true, all of this could have been achieved at the North Pole rather than at both poles and been much closer to home.
    [​IMG]The Germans had long held an interest in the South Polar region of Antarctica with the first Germanic research of that area being undertaken in 1873 when Sir Eduard Dallman (1830-1896) discovered new Antarctic routes with his ship �Gr�nland� during his expedition for the German polar Navigation Company of Hamburg. (The Gr�nland also achieved the distinction of being the first steamer to operate in the southern ocean.)
    A further expedition took place in the early years of the twentieth century in the ship the Gauss (which became embedded in the ice for 12 months � above), and then a further expedition took place in 1911 under the command of Wilhelm Filchner (left) with his ship the �Deutchland�.
    Between the wars, the Germans made a further voyage in 1925 with a specially designed ship for the Polar Regions, the �Meteor� under the command of Dr. Albert Merz.
    Then, in the years directly preceding the Second World War, the Germans laid claim to parts of Antarctica in order to set up a permanent base there. Given that no country actually �owned� the continent and it couldn�t exactly be conquered as no-one lived there during the winter months at least, it appeared to the Germans that the most effective way to �conquer� part of the continent was to physically travel there, claim it, let others know of their actions and await any disagreements.
    Captain Alfred Ritscher (right) was chosen to lead the proposed strike. He had already led expeditions to the North Pole and had proved himself in adverse and critical situations.
    For the mission Ritscher was given the �Schwabenland� (below); a German aircraft carrier that had been used for transatlantic mail deliveries by special flightboats, the famous 10 ton Dornier Super �Wals� since 1934.
    [​IMG]These �Wals� were launched by catapult from the Schwabenland and had to be accelerated to 93mph before they could become airborne. At the end of each flight a crane on the ship lifted the aircraft back on board after they landed in the sea.
    The ship was refitted for the expedition in the shipyards of Hamburg, and around one million Reichmark � nearly a third of the entire expedition budget - was spent on this refit alone.
    The crew was prepared for the mission by the German Society of Polar Research and as these preparations neared completion, the organisation invited Admiral Byrd to address them, which he did.
    The Schwabenland left the port of Hamburg on 17<sup>th</sup> December 1938 and followed a precisely planned and determined route towards the southern continent. In little over a month the ship arrived at the ice covered Antarctica, dropping anchor at 4� 30� W and 69� 14� S on January 20<sup>th</sup> 1939 (8).
    [​IMG]The expedition then spent three weeks off Princess Astrid Coast and Princess Martha Coast off Queen Maud Land (9). During these weeks, the two Schwabenland aircraft, the �Passat� and �Boreas�, flew 15 missions across some 600,000 square kilometres of Antarctica, taking more than 11,000 pictures of the area with their specially designed �Zeiss Reihenmess-bildkameras RMK 38�. (One of these photographs, below left.)
    [​IMG]These pictures showed that some of the older Norwegian maps of the area from 1931 were not only inaccurate, but occasionally fabricated, as the original �maps� bore no resemblance to the photographic images now obtained. (In fact the Norwegian expeditions that had prepared these earlier maps had never actually gone as far inland as some of the areas detailed on their maps.)
    Nearly one fifth of Antarctica was reconnoitred in this way and, for the first time, ice-free areas with lakes and signs of vegetation were discovered.
    This area was then declared to be under the control of the German expedition, renamed �Neu-Schwabenland� and hundreds of small stakes, carrying the swastika, were dumped on the snow-covered ground from the �Wals� to signal the new ownership.

    Ritscher and the Schwabenland left their newly claimed territory in the middle of February 1939 and returned to Hamburg two months later, complete with photographs and maps of the new German acquisition.
    [​IMG]The true purpose of this expedition has never been satisfactorily explained; we are merely left with a series of puzzles, related reports and snippets of information that are no longer open to verification. What is not open to doubt however, is that in the decade preceding the Second World War, the Germans did almost nothing that did not put the entire structure of the country on a war footing.
    This activity affected all aspects of German life; military, civilian, economic, social and foreign policies, engineering, industry etc. Given that the seizing of Neu-Schwabenland occurred on the very eve of the war, it can only be concluded that that the polar expedition was of major importance and significance to the goals and development of the planned 1000-year Third Reich.
    [​IMG]And this �invasion� was certainly not the end to German activity in the area; rather the prelude, providing support for the idea that Germany might have established a base on the apparently frozen wasteland.
    That German activity continued around Antarctica through the war years is a matter of historical record. In 1939, the ship �Schleswig-Holstein� is reported to have inspected Iles Kerguelen, Ile Saint-Paul, Ile Amsterdam, Iles Crozet, Prince Edward Islands, and Gough Island and later visited Cape Town (10).
    [​IMG]During the period 1939 � 1941 Captain Bernhard Rogge of the raider ship �Atlantis� (pictured left in the icy waters off Antarctica)made an extended voyage in the South Atlantic, Indian and South Pacific Oceans, and visited the Iles Kerguelen between December 1940 to January 1941 (burying a seaman at Bassin de la Gazelle).
    The Atlantis is known to have been visited by an RFC-2 (the �UFO� style craft which had served as a reconnaissance aircraft since late 1940.) The ship then adopted a new disguise as Tamesis before being sunk by HMS Devonshire near Ascension Island, on 22<sup>nd</sup> November 1941 (the Atlantis was also known as Hilfskreuzer 16 and was, at various times, disguised as Kasii-Maru or Abbekerk. (11).)
    [​IMG]Although the activities of the German ship Erlangen, under the captaincy of Alfred Grams, do not appear to be of consequence during 1939-40, the same cannot be said of the Komet which was commanded by Captain Robert Eyssen. Following her passage along the Northern Sea Route in 1940, this commerce raider operated in the Pacific and Indian oceans, including a voyage along the Antarctic coastline from Cape Adare to the Shackleton Ice Shelf in search of whaling vessels during February 1941. There she met the Pinguin and supply vessels Alstertor and Adjutant. (Komet was also known as Hilfskreuzer 45 and was sunk off Cherbourg in 1942 (12).)
    The Pinguin itself under the command of Captain Ernst-Felix Kruder was a commerce raider that operated chiefly in the Indian Ocean. In January 1941 she captured a Norwegian whaling fleet (factory ships Ole Wegger and Pelagos, supply ship Solglimt and eleven whale catchers) in about 59� S, 02� 30W. One of these catchers (renamed Adjutant) remained as a tender and the rest were sent to France. This ship also made anchorages at the Iles Kerguelen and may have landed a party on Marion Island. (Pinguin was sunk off the Persian Gulf by HMS Cornwall0 on 8<sup>th</sup> May 1941 after she had captured 136,550 tons of British and allied shipping. She was also known as Hilfskreuzer 33, and disguised herself at various times as Tamerlan, Petschura, Kassos and Trafalgar (13).)


    This island of Kerguelen (named the �Most Useless Island In the World� in 1995) continued to feature prominently in Nazi plans. For example, in 1942 the German Navy planned to establish a meteorological station there. In May of that year the ship Michel (Hilfskreuzer 28) transferred a meteorologist and two radio operators with full equipment to a supply vessel Charlotte Schlieman that went on to the island, however the orders for the station were later counter-manded (14). (Kerguelen Island was also the centre of a mid 19<sup>th</sup> Century mystery. Then entirely uninhabited, except for seals and seabirds, British Captain Sir James Clark Ross landed there in May 1840. He found in the snow unidentifiable "traces � of the singular footprints of a pony, or ass, being 3 inches in length and 2� inches in breadth, having a small deeper depression in either side, and shaped like a horseshoe." Similar markings appeared overnight in the Devon area of England fifteen years later and have also defied adequate explanation.) Then in 1942 Captain Gerlach in his ship the �Stier� investigated nearby Gough Island as a possible temporary base for raiders and a camp for prisoners. (Stier was also known as Hilfskreuzer 23.)
    This ship activity does not appear considerable, however the level of U-boat activity in the South Atlantic was much higher. The exact nature and extent of how high will probably never be known, however some insight might be gleaned from the fact that between October 1942 and September 1944 16 German U-boats were sunk in the South Atlantic area (see Appendix I).
    Apart from their normal patrols, some of these submarines did appear to be engaged in covert activities. For example submarine U-859 which, on 4<sup>th</sup> April 1944 at 04.40hrs, left on a mission carrying 67 men and 33 tons of mercury sealed in glass bottles in watertight tin crates. The submarine was later sunk on 23<sup>rd</sup> September by a British submarine (HMS Trenchant) in the Straits of Malacca and although 47 of the crew died, 20 survived. Some 30 years later one of these survivors spoke openly about the cargo and divers later confirmed the story on rediscovering the mercury. The significance being that mercury is usable as a fuel source for certain types of aerospace propulsion. Why would a German submarine be transporting such a cargo so far from home?


    Although this is the known record of Nazi activity around Antarctica before 8<sup>th</sup> May 1945 when Germany surrendered unconditionally to the Allies, events after that date suggested something was happening that did not form a part of recognised world history. Something fuelled by a statement made by Karl D�nitz (left). D�nitz (16<sup>th</sup> September 1891 � 24<sup>th</sup> December 1980) had become Oberbefehlshaber der Kriegsmarine on 31<sup>st</sup> January 1943 and he led the German U-Boat fleet until the end of World War II. (D�nitz also has the distinction of briefly becoming head of the German state for 20 days after Hitler�s death until his own capture by the Allies on 23<sup>rd</sup> May 1945.) His contribution to the mystery of post-war Antarctic activity came in a statement he made in 1943 when he declared that the German submarine fleet had rebuilt "in another part of the world a Shangri-La land � an impregnable fortress." Could he have been referring to the alleged base in Antarctica?
    Certainly there are records of continued German naval activity in the area after the war had apparently ended. For example, on 10<sup>th</sup> July 1945, more than two months after the cessation of known hostilities, the German submarine U-530 surrendered to Argentine authorities. The background to this event is puzzling. It is known that the boat had left Lorient in France on 22<sup>nd</sup> May 1944 under the captaincy of Otto Wermuth for operations in the Trinidad area, and after successfully rendezvousing with the incoming Japanese submarine I-52, it headed for Trinidad before finally returning to base after 133 days at sea.
    The boat�s official record states that between October 1944 and May 1945 it formed part of the 33<sup>rd</sup> Flotilla and on Germany�s surrender Otto Wermuth�s captaincy and the submarine�s career came to an end. Yet two months later it arrived in Rio de la Plata in Argentina and surrendered to the authorities there on 10<sup>th</sup> July 1945.


    History also records that the U-boat, U-977, left Kristiansand in Norway on 2<sup>nd</sup> May 1945 for combat patrol in the English Channel. After Germany�s surrender, Captain Heinz Sch�ffer decided to head for the South Atlantic but he first gave the married men on board the chance to go ashore; 16 of them took Sch�ffer up the offer. After a 66-day submerged trip, and a further run on the surface, U-977 arrived in Mar del Plata, Argentina on 17<sup>th</sup> August, and later surrendered to the US in Boston on 13<sup>th</sup> November 1945 three months later. Its activities during this period are unknown.
    This incident occurred shortly after the end of the war, however, there continued to be accounts of German activity for a considerable post-war period. The French �Agence France Press� on 25<sup>th</sup> September 1946 stated "the continuous rumours about German U-boat activity in the region of Tierra del Fuego [�Feuerland� in German] between the southernmost tip of Latin America and the continent of Antarctica are based on true happenings."
    Then the French newspaper, �France Soir� gave the following account of an encounter with such a German U-boat. "Almost 1 � � years after cessation of hostilities in Europe, the Icelandic Whaler �Juliana� was stopped by a large German U-boat. The Juliana was in the Antarctic region around Malvinas Islands [The Falklands] when a German submarine surfaced and raised the German official Flag of Mourning � red with a black edge.
    "The submarine commander sent out a boarding party, which approached the Juliana in a rubber dingy, and having boarded the whaler demanded of Capt. Hekla part of his fresh food stocks. The request was made in the definite tone of an order to which resistance would have been unwise.
    "The German officer spoke a correct English and paid for his provisions in US dollars, giving the Captain a bonus of $10 for each member of the Juliana crew. Whilst the foodstuffs were being transferred to the submarine, the submarine commander informed Capt. Hekla of the exact location of a large school of whales. Later the Juliana found the school of whales where designated."


    Could it be possible that other German U-boats, in addition to U-530 and U-977 were continuing to operate in the area following the war? There are no formal records of such activity, however it is known that 54 German U-boats �disappeared� during the war, of which only 11 are likely to have met their fate at the hands of mines (see appendix II).
    The future may well reveal that fate of more of these submarines, however given the French and South American reports, and the number of missing U-boats, it may not be unreasonable to conclude that at least some of them relocated to the South Polar area.
    History also gives us further clues as to a Nazi-Antarctica connection, for it records that Hans-Ulrich Rudel of the German Luftwaffe (above) was being groomed by Hitler to be his successor. It is known that Rudel made frequent trips to Tierra del Fuego at the tip of South America nearest Antarctica. And one of Martin Bormann�s last messages from the bunker in Berlin to D�nitz also mentioned Tierra del Fuego.
    Then there are claims about Rudolph Hess (below), Hitler�s best friend who went to England and was arrested as a war criminal on 10<sup>th</sup> May 1941. Following his arrest, Hess was held in Spandau Prison in isolation until his death. Such unique treatment is suggestive that he had information that the Allies considered dangerous. Indeed, in his book �Secret Nazi Polar Expeditions� Christof Friedrich states Hess "was entrusted with the all-important Antarctic file � Hess, himself, kept the Polar file�" (15)


    However, for Operation Highjump to have been an attempt to ferret out a remaining Nazi base on the Antarctic continent, there would have been two prerequisites. Firstly, Operation Highjump would have to provide evidence that the mission included a reconnaissance of Neu-Swabenland and secondly, there would have to be an area of the frozen continent that could allow such a base to exist throughout the year. And indeed both criteria are met.
    Both the Eastern and Western Groups of Operation Highjump had been active around Neu-Schwabenland. So was a Russian boat that "proved to be unfriendly" (16).

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    The Eastern group were frustrated in their efforts to make a reconnaissance of the area, despite incredible efforts to secure photographs for later examination. However by then "it was very late in the season ... The sun had only been briefly glimpsed in the past few weeks, but everyone could tell that the continually grey skies and clouds were darkening daily. In another month all light would be gone from Antarctica�. The waters girdling the continent would begin to freeze rapidly, binding unwary ships in a crushing embrace � Dufek [the commander] was loath to surrender. He ordered his ships northwards away from the pack. Perhaps one or two more flights might be possible. But on the morning of 3 March � virgin ice was seen to be forming on the water�s surface [and the] Eastern group steamed out of Antarctica. (17)"


    The Western Group, however, were to make a remarkable discovery. At the end of January 1947 a PBM piloted by Lieutenant Commander David Bunger of Coronado, California, flew from his ship, the Currituck and headed towards the continent�s Queen Mary Coast. On reaching land, Bunger flew west for a time, then, coming up over the featureless, white horizon, he saw a dark, bare area which Byrd later described as "a land of blue and green lakes and brown hills in an otherwise limitless expanse of ice." (18)



    Bunger and his men carefully reconnoitred the area before racing back to the Currituck with news of their find. The �oasis� they had discovered covered an area of some three hundred square miles of the continent and contained three large, open water lakes along with a number of smaller lakes. These lakes were separated by masses of barren, reddish-brown rocks possibly indicating the presence of iron ore.
    Several days later, Bunger returned to the area, and found that the water was warm to the touch and the lake itself was filled with red, blue and green algae giving it a distinctive colour. Bunger filled a bottle with the water which later "turned out to be brackish, a clue to the fact that the �lake� was actually an arm of the open sea." (19)
    This is important for two reasons; warm, inland lakes connected to the surrounding oceans would be perfect for submarines to hide within, and similar lakes have been noted in Neu-Schwabenland, the site of the alleged Nazi base.
    There is no conclusive evidence of a Nazi base on Antarctica, however that something untoward was happening on, or around, the frozen continent appears, on balance of probabilities, to be likely. The evidence is there;i) The Germans invaded and claimed part of Antarctica on the very eve of the war when all of their activity was geared towards the war machine and the establishment of a 1000-year Reich.
    ii) There was ongoing ship and submarine activity in the South Atlantic and polar regions throughout and after the war had apparently ended.
    iii) The US invaded the continent itself with considerable naval resources leaving mainland America exposed and vulnerable as the world edged into the Cold War. The task force limped home as if defeated only weeks later, and the local South American press wrote of such a defeat.
    iv) Admiral Byrd spoke of objects that could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds being based on Antarctica.
    v) Hundreds of thousands of Germans and numerous U-boats were missing at the end of the war.

    The connection between Antarctica and the UFO phenomenon was sealed with claims made by one Albert K. Bender who stated that he "went into the fantastic and came up with an answer � I know what the saucers are."

    Albert Bender ran an organisation called the �International Flying Saucer Bureau� a small UFO organisation based in Connecticut, USA and he also edited a publication known as the �Space Review� which was committed to the dissemination of news about UFOs. In truth, the organisation had only a small membership and the publication circulated amongst hundreds rather than thousands, but that its members and readers valued it was in little doubt. The publication itself advocated that flying saucers were spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin.
    Then, in the October 1953 edition of �Space Review�, there were two major announcements. The first was headed �Late Bulletin� and stated "A source which the IFSB considers very reliable has informed us that the investigation of the flying saucer mystery and the solution is approaching final stages. This same source to whom we had referred data, which had come into our possession, suggested that it was not the proper method and time to publish the data in Space Review."
    The second announcement read "Statement of Importance: The mystery of the flying saucers is no longer a mystery. The source is already known, but any information about this is being withheld by order from a higher source. We would like to print the full story in Space Review, but because of the nature of the information we are very sorry that we have been advised in the negative." The statement ended in the sentence "We advise those engaged in saucer work to please be very cautious."
    These announcements were of little significance in themselves. What gained them wider attention was the fact that immediately after publishing this October 1953 issue, Bender suspended further publication of the magazine and closed the IFSB down without any further explanation.
    [​IMG]Bender might have known "what the flying saucers" were, but he later revealed in a local newspaper interview that he was keeping his knowledge a secret following a visit by three men who apparently confirmed he was right about his UFO theory, but put him in sufficient fear to immediately close down his organisation and cease publication of the journal. It has been argued that the story of being visited by three strangers and being �warned off� was a front to close a publication that was losing money, however the fact that Bender had been "scared to death" and "actually couldn�t eat for a couple of days" was verified by his friends and associates.
    However, in 1963, a full decade after his visit from the three strangers, Bender was seemingly prepared to reveal more of his story in a largely unreadable book entitled �Flying Saucers and the Three Men in Black.� The book was scant on facts however intriguingly described extraterrestrial spacecraft that had bases in Antarctica. This was apparently the truth Bender was terrorised into not revealing. Bender also provided images of the saucers he was aware of. Yet again we see a drawing of his UFO with the three bubbles underneath, reminiscent of the Haunebu II alongside a cigar shaped object, of which more later.
    Ernst Zundel, a German scientist turned author who had entered the US under Operation Paperclip at the end of the war and who worked at Wright Field (later Wright Patterson AFB where the alleged Roswell debris was housed), also made claims about the nature of the activity in Antarctica.
    In the 1970s Zundel wrote a book �UFOs: Nazi Secret Weapons?� in which he claimed that UFOs were secret Nazi weapons developed during the Second World War, and some of them had been shipped out towards the end of the war and hidden at the poles. Publication of the book coincided with a tidal wave of renewed interest in all things spiritual, and Zundel was invited on to countless talk shows to share his views on spaceships, free energies, electromagnetism, emergent technologies and some of the positive contributions made by the Germans under the Third Reich in these fields (26).
    Zundel was actually only really interested in promoting his holocaust theory, described in his book �Did Six Million Really Die?� however found that his Nazi and �Hollow Earth� ideas proved a greater attraction to television producers. Zundel explains: "I realised that North Americans were not interested in being educated. They want to be entertained. The book was for fun. With a picture of the Fuhrer on the cover and flying saucers coming out of Antarctica it was a chance to get on radio and TV talk shows. For about 15 minutes of an hour program I�d talk about that esoteric stuff. Then I would start talking about all those Jewish scientists in concentration camps, working on these secret weapons. And that was my chance to talk about what I wanted to talk about." (27)
    The idea however, gripped the popular imagination and took on a life of its own. Zundel�s publishing company, �Samisdat�, started to make a name for itself by issuing newsletters and books on the subject. An expedition to Antarctica itself was even proposed to seek out �Hitler�s UFO bases� there. (See advert, above.)
    Yet such claims would have died out had they not been based on at least some real events. That something strange was happening around the foreboding continent took an interesting turn in the 1960s when the Argentine Navy was charged with the official investigation into strange sightings in the sky. A 1965 official report prepared by Captain Sanchez Moreno of the Naval Air Station Comandante Espora in Bahia Blanca stated:
    "Between 1950 and 1965, personnel of Argentina�s Navy alone made 22 sightings of unidentified flying objects that were not airplanes, satellites, weather balloons or any type of known (aerial) vehicles. These 22 cases served as precedents for intensifying that investigation of the subject by the Navy (20)." Following a series of sightings at Argentine and Chilean meteorological stations on Deception Island, Antarctica, in June and July 1965, Captain Engineer Omar Pagani disclosed at a press conference that "the unidentified flying objects do exist. Their presence in Argentine airspace is proven. Their nature and origin are unknown and no judgement is made about them." (21)
    [​IMG]More details of these UFO sightings were given in a report in the Brazilian newspaper �O Estado de Sao Paulo� in its 8<sup>th</sup> July 1965 edition. "For the first time in history, an official communiqu� has been published by a government about the flying saucers. It is a document from the Argentine Navy, based on the statements of a large number of Argentine, Chilean and British sailors stationed in the naval base in Antarctica.
    The communiqu� declared that the personnel of Deception Island (left) naval base saw, at nineteen hours forty minutes on 3 July, a flying object of lenticular shape, with a solid appearance and a colouring in which red and green prevailed and, for a few moments, yellow. The machine was flying in a zig-zag fashion, and in a generally western direction, but it changed course several times and changed speed, having an inclination of about forty-five degrees above the horizon. The craft also remained stationary for about twenty minutes at a height of approximately 5,000 meters, producing no sound.
    The communiqu� states moreover that the prevailing meteorological conditions when the phenomenon was observed can be considered excellent for the region in question and the time of year. The sky was clear and quite a lot of stars were visible.
    The Secretariat of the Argentine Navy also states in its communiqu� that the occurrence was witnessed by scientists of the three naval bases and that the facts described by these people agree completely." (22)
    In March 1950 Commodore Augusto Vars Orrego of the Chilean Navy shot still pictures and 8mm movie footage of a very large cigar shaped flying object that hovered over and manoeuvred about in the frigid skies above the Chilean Antarctic. Orrego stated "during the bright Antarctic night, we saw flying saucers, one above the other, turning at tremendous speeds. We have photographs to prove what we saw (23)." There have been other Chilean sightings.
    Then during January 1956 an event was witnessed by a group of Chilean scientists who had been flown by helicopter to Robertson Island in the Wendell Sea to study geology, fauna and other features. This experience was the subject of a later article entitled �A Cigar-Shaped UFO over Antarctica.� "At the beginning of January 1956, during a period of stormy weather, the party suddenly became aware of something which, in other circumstances, could have been very grave for them. This was that their radio had mysteriously ceased to function. This was not too worrying a disaster in so much as it was firmly settled that the helicopter would return to take them off again on January 20."
    One of the scientists, a doctor, was in the habit of getting up in the night to observe anything of meteorological interest, but another of the group, a professor, did not like to be disturbed. However on the night of 8<sup>th</sup> January 1956, the Doctor decided to wake the professor. He "pointed upwards, almost overhead. Still in a bad temper through being disturbed, [the professor] looked as directed, and beheld two �metallic� cigar-shaped objects in verticular positions, perfectly still and silent, and flashing vividly the reflected rays of the sun."
    Soon after 7.00am, two other members of the party, an assistant and a medical orderly joined the two men. The group watched the two craft. "At about 9.00am object No. 1 (the nearest to the zenith) suddenly assumed a horizontal posture and shot away like a flash towards the west. It had now lost its metallic brightness and had taken on the whole gamut of visible colours of the spectrum, from infrared to ultra-violet.
    "Without slowing down it performed an incredible acute-angle change of direction, shot off across another section of the sky and then did another sharp turn as before. These vertiginous manoeuvres, the zig-zagging, abrupt stopping, instantaneous accelerating, went on for some time right overhead, the object always following tangential trajectories in respect to the Earth and all in the most absolute silence.
    "The demonstration lasted about five minutes. Then the object returned and took up position beside its companion in almost the same area of the sky as before, but now it was the turn of No. 2 to show its paces and do a weird zigzagging dance. Shooting off towards the east, it performed a series of ten dispointed bursts of flight, broken by brusque changes of direction, and marked by the same colour changes when accelerating or stopping, and so on. After about three minutes of this, object No. 2 returned and took up its station near its companion, and reassumed its original solid and metallic appearance.
    "The scientists had with them two Geiger-Miller counters of high sensitivity, one of the auditory and the other of the flash-type. When the two objects had finished their dance and reassumed their stations in the sky, someone discovered that the flash-type Geiger counter now showed that radioactivity around them had suddenly increased 40 times � enough to kill any organism subjected long enough to it. The discovery greatly increased the anxiety felt by the four men �
    "Although they had no telescopic lens, they did however have cameras with them, and they took numerous photographs of the objects, both in colour and black and white. We are not told in the report what became of these photographs." (24).
    Five years later there was another documented account of a UFO sighting over Antarctica by Rubens Junqueira Villela, a meteorologist and the first Brazilian scientist to participate in an expedition to the white continent, now a veteran of eleven expeditions to Antarctica (two with the US Navy, eight with the Brazilian Antarctic Programme and another on the sailing ship Rapa Nui). Whilst on board the US Navy icebreaker Glacier (below) which had set sail from New Zealand at the end of January 1961, Villela claims that he witnessed a UFO event in the skies over Antarctica which he immediately recorded in his diary, even including the emotions felt by all those involved. During 16<sup>th</sup> March 1961 and after a fierce storm had forced the expedition to retreat to Admiralty Bay in the King George Isles, "a strange light suddenly crossed the sky, and everyone started to shout.
    "�It�s a missile!� said one excited Marine. �No, it�s a meteor,� barked another member of the crew. The excitement was wide-spread and growing. Trying to describe the light which appeared over Almirantado Bay wasn�t easy � I wrote in my diary: �Positively the colours, the configuration and contours of the object, as a bodied [sic] light, with geometric forms, did not seem to be from this world, and I did not know what could possibly reproduce it."
    "The object was multi-coloured and had a luminous body �oval-shaped. It left a long tube-like orange/red trail. Suddenly, it split into two pieces, as if it had exploded. Each part shone even more intensively, with white, blue and red colours projecting �V� shaped rays behind it. Quite quickly they moved away and could be seen 200 meters above the ground � Throughout the sighting no noise was heard by any of the witnesses."
    [​IMG]"The US Navy officially registered the incident as "a meteor or some other natural luminous phenomenon" according to the report submitted by the Glacier�s captain, Captain Porter.
    As a trained meteorologist, Villela easily dismissed the official line. "How could they mistake a meteor with an object carrying antennae, completely symmetrical and followed by a tail without any sight of atmospheric disturbance?" (25)
    [​IMG]"The renowned sceptic and self-styled debunker, Phillip Klaus, believes this episode is a classic example of �plasma�, however the late meteorologist, James McDonald argued that the highly structured nature of the object and the low cloud overcast present at about 1500 feet were not compatible with Klass�s hypothesis.
    The South Atlantic area was also host to another sighting on 16<sup>th</sup> January 1958 when the Brazilian naval vessel Almirante Salddanha was escorting a team of scientists to a weather station on Trindade Island. As the ship approach the island (or rather an outcrop of rock) a UFO reportedly swooped past the ship, circled the island, then flew off in front of dozens of witnesses.
    One of these witnesses, the expedition photographer, took a number of photographs of the object, and later the film was handed over to the military by the Captain. After analysis, the Brazilian government released the film stating that they were unable to account for the images.
    Whatever was going on in the Antarctic region, it certainly wasn't happening in isolation.


    - from http://www.violations.org.uk/book4/secrets/german_flying_saucers.htm
     
  19. Panzerfaust

    Panzerfaust Senior Member

    I was able to find a video of a German Saucer taking off. 400 mb in size, I took some screenshots of the craft:

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    I'll try to find someway to upload it, the video images weren't the clearest.

    I've also found a clearer picture of this image I posted before:
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    Here is the Avorcar Flying Saucer Develop By the Americans:
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  20. trumpetplayer992

    trumpetplayer992 Senior Member

    wow, that's cool. Did they use them in battle?
     

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