General Montgomery

Discussion in 'General' started by Joe Perkowski, Dec 30, 2005.

  1. Exxley

    Exxley Senior Member

    (jimbotosome @ Jan 4 2006, 06:30 PM) [post=44036](angie999 @ Jan 4 2006, 05:54 AM) [post=44015]Yes you do, you can cite sources and it is then up to us to look them up for ourselves. You can even include brief quaotations without breaking the established copyright conventions. Just about the worst sources, apart from History Channel shows maybe, are internet sources. [/b]
    I don’t think that sources of history are all correct but there are no pristine history accounts anywhere and for trite things, any link addressing the ridiculous argument of claiming that Von Rundstedt was never involved in the Ardennes Offensive, are certainly sufficient. Beware of purism, it is often a subtle form of bigotry. [/b]
    Note that some people have little care for intellectual honesty. The point was that Rundstedt was never involved in the operational conduct of the campaign, which somehow is now translated in: he was never involved in the Ardennes offensive.
  2. Max (UK)

    Max (UK) Member

    </div><div class='quotemain'>A load of nonsense is a matter of your opinion[/b]

    And the opinion of EVERYONE else !!!!

    Doesn't that tell you something?

    </div><div class='quotemain'>you can attack me with personal comments[/b]

    Here we go - was waiting for that.

    First of all, you've been hurling out the insults yourself !!!

    Second of all, you've been disrespecful a number of occasions to Montgomery, who is a National Hero. That will not get you far. I've seen this argument alot on forums but never anyone quite so disrespectful as you.

    Perhaps do something constructive like finding some British war films that take credit for American actions?? You have STILL to do that from the other argument where you were out on your own as well. I'm still waiting. Once again, postings that were just pure rubbish.
    While you're at it, ask yourself why all the books you have read declare American as so brilliant and the British as idiots. It's the same as your stupid films.
  3. angie999

    angie999 Very Senior Member

    Jimbo, I certainly admire your willingness to defend a hopeless position.

    As far as continuing with this daily pointless exercise, I stand by what I have said, I do not accept any point you have made except where I have explicitly said so and I suggest you take time off to read some history and take some classes. You need to study a range of works with conflicting opinions and learn to take a more balanced view of history.

    With that, I have nothing further to say to you here.
  4. Wise1

    Wise1 There We Are Then


    I have followed this post with great interest and must admit to having enjoyed it very much, not from the many negative comments but from the overall content.

    History is all about debate, what did happen, what could have happened and even what should have happened.

    Everyone has their own view and each person is entitled to that view, instead of needless argument it is often better to respect an individuals viewpoint whether you agree or not. Different views are often the fuel for any discussion and what maintains it for so long.

    So lets all take some time to cool off on this subject and I will close it. No doubt another will open soon but this thread is just digressing too much.

    A very useful thread on the subject whether it be about Montgomery or Patton :)
  5. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    This just popped up on social media and I though some of you might not have seen it.

    Monty's father:


    Clearly, the similarity is in the eyes, but also--as has been speculated--perhaps in the frank and realistic address to the troops.
    JimHerriot likes this.

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