Gas mask canister? German??

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  1. red dragon

    red dragon Junior Member

    this came to my possesion recently, not sure what it is, any one know?? thanks:confused:

    matthew
     

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  2. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    It looks more likely to be a thermos flask for soup etc as in the top cap is a server with handle.

    The usual standard German Gas mask case was convoluted vertically like corrogated without the shaped top.

    The gas mask cap was straight across and not domed.

    MP44.nl - German Uniforms and Equipment - Gasmaske


    Regards
    Tom
     
  3. red dragon

    red dragon Junior Member

    aahhh, that explains, thanks

    Matthew
     
  4. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    I go along with the thermos flask, no gask mask cannister
     
  5. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    Going to have to go with gas mask holder , but not WW2 case.
    The shallow square container incorporated into the lid is for a set on lens.
    Post war but not sure if its east or west German.
    The same fitting existed in German gas mask tins.
    The off set clips one on the right goes to the belt and the other to a webbing strap which goes over the left shoulder , same carry position as Geramn WW2 masks and something unique to them.

    The closing clip another very German feature but it isn't a WW2 tin , (IMO) it is post war.

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/weapons-technology-equipment/17489-german-kit%3B-two-bits-baffle-me.html

    This shows the same type of shallow container in the lid.
     
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Very similar looking canister body here, sadly only a partial view:
    DSC01132.JPG (image)
    Scroll down with ctrl+f to "Military GM65, made by Dräger" here.
    (Lots of masks on there.)

    Shame that the excellent Gasmasks.net doesn't appear to focus on canisters... yet.
     
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  7. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Adam,
    It looks like very similar to me, I think you take the prize.:D

    Looked at lots of cases on the web but non the same. Very well spotted.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  8. red dragon

    red dragon Junior Member

    thanks guys, very helpfull
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Another very similar one.
    Without the dimpled finish, but all the other fittings seem to match:
    WWII German Gas Mask Canister - Special Forces Gear
    I'd say they're not being entirely accurate in flogging it as WW2, though $25 for one in that condition should encourage any emptor to do a bit of caveating ;)

    Beutel? - Bag? Container?
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  11. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    One thing to be wary of is that the fluted canister of WW2 continued to be manufactured through to the 1980's - I was recently given a West german fire brigade mask (mask is also identical) that was made in 1977. (the only difference (apart from the '77 date inside the lid) is that it's painted in a metallic olive green rather than drab).

    Dave.
     
  12. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    The nature of the securing stud for the clip and the makers code are things to look for.
    A friend of mine went through a gas mask tin stage a while back.
    Odd to some but not to him. :)
    ( We all go a little mad in our own uniquely individual manner).
     
  13. Passchendaele_Baby

    Passchendaele_Baby Grandads Little Girl

    ... but still, if you dont want it, just send it to NZ with my name on it!!
    :lol:
     
  14. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    One thing to be wary of is that the fluted canister of WW2 continued to be manufactured through to the 1980's - I was recently given a West german fire brigade mask (mask is also identical) that was made in 1977. (the only difference (apart from the '77 date inside the lid) is that it's painted in a metallic olive green rather than drab).

    Dave.


    To illustrate...

    WW2 GM30 on the left (with 1944 manufactured M38 canister), FeuerwehrGM54 (with 1977 manufactured M38 canister)on the right...
     

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  15. looks like a gas mask canister to me mate
     
  16. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    The tin in the first post is definately a Bundeswehr gas mask canister without a shadow of a doubt (bought a few (for the masks - them being so similar to the WW2 pattern)a few years back and couldn't even give the tins away!!!)...it was originally designed to house the GM54 but continued in use with the GM65. I don't know it's exact terminology, but I'd hazard a guess at it being a M54 case.

    dave.
     

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