french foreign légion POW camp 66 and 77

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  1. zede

    zede Member

    Hello,
    I received the response from the Red Cross and my grandfather was interned in Capua PG 66 PM 3300 (his name is on a map dated March 8, 1943) and from March 18, 1943 his name appears on a prisoner's list from PG 77 PM 3400.
    There is no other mention of his name in the Red Cross files so I’m not sure that he has moved to PG 82.
    I did not find much information about Camp 77.
    Could some of you give me more information especially of this camp from September 1943, the percentage of escape ...
    Merci d’avance
    Estelle
     
  2. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Hello Estelle,

    Attached is a photo I took at the site of PG 77, Pissignano. It was a tent camp. I have also attached a Red Cross Report describing conditions.

    On 28 February 1943 there were 221 prisoners in PG 77, all of whom were classed by the Italian War Ministry as 'White De Gaullists'. According to campifascisti.it at the end of March the number of French had risen to 1,344. The Red Cross report of 3 April gives a total of 1, 370 men, of whom 6 were English non-commissioned officers and 22 were South African.

    One of the men transferred from PG 77 to PG 82 was Pierre Dutremont:POWs and “escaped” (6' puntata)

    Do you know what happened to your grandfather at the time of the armistice?

    Vitellino

    1.  PG77 labelled.JPG PG 77 Pissignano Red Cross Report p.1.jpg PG 77 Pissignano Red Cross Report p.2.jpg
     
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  3. zede

    zede Member

    Hello, thank you for your answer. in my « user présentation » I explained that my grandfather was Belgian and that he may have been internal to Laterina. he was working outside the camp from which he escaped. in May 1944 he crosses the English lines and he integrates the 13th DBLE to continue the war and the campagne of France. in January 1946 he left for the war of Indochina and he left the foreign legion in 1951.
    About laterina I can not believe that some legionnaire could survive if he was betrayed because in July 1944 the 13th DBLE is completed with a lot of legionnaire-prisoners escaped from the Italian camps.
    Affaire à suivre...
    Estelle
     
  4. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    I have read your original post again. I will have another look on campifascisti.it to see if I can find where the French Foreign Legion from Pissignano were sent.

    Vitellino
     
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  5. zede

    zede Member

    hello, I put a file attached. It’s an extract from the book L’épopée de la 13ème demi-brigade de légion étrangère of André Paul Comor. there is a passage on the integration of legionaries imprisoned in Italy and who after their escape joined the 13th in June and July 1944. Unfortunately I don’t know which camps they escaped nor how long their escape lasted.
    Do you know if in the book Deportazione ed internamento in Umbria. Pissignano PG n.77 (1942-1943) mention was made of the prisoners of the Foreign Legion. Because the number of « de gaulliste » increases a lot for this camp during the first quarter of 1943.
    I'm sorry for my english.
    Thanks
    Estelle
     

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  6. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Hello Estelle,

    Thank you for posting these two pages.

    I have looked on the Italian website campifascisti.it but there is no documentation after March 1943.

    The other book you mention - Deportazione ed internamento in Umbria. Pissignano PG n.77 (1942-1943) - does not make any reference to Allied prisoners of war but is about political prisoners from the Balkans - Yugoslavia, Montenegro etc.

    I am sorry that I can't help you any further.

    Best wishes,

    Vitellino
     
  7. zede

    zede Member

    Bonjour Vitellino,
    Thank you for the research and details on the book.
    I found a book "En 1940 je n'avais pas 18 ans" written by Andre Elen a former Belgian legionnaire who recounts his captivity in Italy after being captured in Tunisia (same regiment and battle as my grandfather).
    He explains that he was interned in Tunis, then transferred by boat to PG66 (the wounded arrive in February), then to P.G. 77 and finally by train to P.G. 82. Same information that I found on my side. He gives some details on the fact that in Laterina the French were separated from the English, and how they all escaped after the Italian armistice in September 1943. I joined a few pages, the rest of the book talks about their journey in Italy during their escape if it interests you I can scan them too
    Best wishes,
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  9. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Thank you very much Estelle I can read French but won't attempt to write it. Could you please send me the rest of the pages describing the journey south? You can send me them in a private message

    I will translate the important parts into English and add them to my Laterina website.

    Best wishes,

    Vitellino
     
  10. zede

    zede Member

    Good evening,
    Pages of the book sent!
    If other people cross legionaries or French in their research on the prisoners of the PG 66, PG77 and PG82 that interests me.
    A bientôt,
    Estelle
     

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