Former Soviet soldiers still in Afghanistan.

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by Owen, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Interesting article about two former Soviet soldiers who still live in Afghanistan.

    BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Afghanistan's Soviet remnants

    in the north-eastern town of Kunduz, I met Private Alexander Levenets and Gennady Tseuma, two village boys from Ukraine, former teenage conscripts.


    The AFV buffs amongst you will like the Soviet scrap-yard in the second video.
     
  2. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Good article, have to say that its a common story about russian soldiers became muslims when caught by mujahideen in Afghanistan. Sadly there was only small number of 'em from all amount of captured by mujahideen - most of 'em were tortured or killed. Let 'em RIP.
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Alex,

    Was there many Muslim Soldiers in the Soviet Army at the time of Afganistan?

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  4. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Alex,
    Was there many Muslim Soldiers in the Soviet Army at the time of Afganistan?


    As far as I know - if there were any - they didn't show their religion a lot, u know that religion was hiding in USSR and was not officially permitted. Also I might consider that government tried not to send soldiers from USSR regions where muslims is wide spread historically, like Tatarstan for example or Caucasus, but I have no facts to prove it, just my opinion.
     
  5. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Alex,

    Was there many Muslim Soldiers in the Soviet Army at the time of Afganistan?


    And your question inspired me for question for you: do UK have muslims in army? And does it send it to Iraq or Afghanistan? Were there any cases when such soldiers passed to enemies?
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Can't remember his name but I do remember seeing a newspaper story about a Muslim Bootneck.
    Royal Marine.
     
  7. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Can't remember his name but I do remember seeing a newspaper story about a Muslim Bootneck.
    Royal Marine.

    Looks like single case, because I think government should not send muslims fight with muslims even if its not a religious warfare at all, religion can take over any citizenship, that's worst of it.
     
  8. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Completely off topic but I watch a film the other
    day called 9th Company set around a hill held by
    Soviet soldiers against Afghan rebels in 1988
    apparently based on a true story. I was really
    impressed with this film and rate it up there
    with Backhawk Down...don't watch if there
    are any distractions because it has English
    subtitles, but its still a good film.

    Back to topic didn't this also happen to
    alot of American soldiers in vietnam?
     
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  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I thought the Yanks just left alot of blue-eyed, blonde-haired children to Vietnamese mothers .
    :)
    <3

    Keiron is this it?

    9th Company

    edit
    Just bought it from Play.com

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Thats it Owen really is worth a watch.
     
  11. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Kieron,
    From the trailer, it certaily looks very viewable.

    Must look out for it to rent.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  12. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    YES, YES and YES! I highly recommend 9th Company to be watched because its only modern Russia movie about Afghanistan, and is not filled with any kind of propaganda or political stuff, although this means that somewhere it shaken russian society because showed life and war in Afghanistan in some strange angles, there was lots of talks in press and internet when this movie came to screens. Anyway, this movie, especially its battle scenes, became my fav. Please watch and leave comments, I'd like to discuss it deeply.
     
  13. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Kieron,
    Over to you, as you have it all fresh in your mind.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  14. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Back to topic didn't this also happen to
    alot of American soldiers in vietnam?

    Happened what? ;)
     
  15. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kieron Hill [​IMG]
    Back to topic didn't this also happen to
    alot of American soldiers in vietnam?

    Happened what? [​IMG]


    I just remember reading somewhere that a few American
    soldiers went AWOL and remained remained in Vietnam
    when the war was over.

    The film as I said is good, It follows a group of young
    conscripts from joining up, training and then being sent
    off to Afghan...I will not say much as Owen has just
    purchased the film and that wouldn't be fair, but it has
    some real good angels and in places very deep. It
    gets five stars from me ***** :)
     
  16. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    I just remember reading somewhere that a few American
    soldiers went AWOL and remained remained in Vietnam
    when the war was over.

    The film as I said is good, It follows a group of young
    conscripts from joining up, training and then being sent
    off to Afghan...I will not say much as Owen has just
    purchased the film and that wouldn't be fair, but it has
    some real good angels and in places very deep. It
    gets five stars from me ***** :)

    Aaah, yep, I've heard something about it, I think such things happens on any wars.

    Back to the film: yes, Owen, go on and watch. In addition have to say that last scene of movie nocked my feelings very well, should get a copy and rewatch it with my 5.1 system.
     
  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Will watch it as soon as it arrives.
    My wife bought me an American war film as a pressie, it just doesn't interest me.
    So much rather see a Russian one.
     
  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Alex,

    Yes we do have soldiers in the British Army who following Islam. Infact there was a chap a few years ago who was in the Intelligence Corp who was killed in Afganistan (Around 2004/5 I think) who's family originated from Pakistan.

    I vaguely remember a officer in the RAF who was a Muslim who refused to go to Iraq in 2003 (pre invasion). I may be wrong I think he was court marshalled-I don't know the outcome though.

    The MOD has personnel from all faiths I believe. I know the Chaplain's Dept has religious leaders of the Christian (C of E and Catholic) Jewish, Mulsin and I believe Hindu faith....I'd have to check to confirm.

    Maybe have a look on the MOD website :unsure:

    Just looked and it doesn't list faiths outside of what appears to various forms of Christianity for some reason.
     
  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  20. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

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