Forgotten Battles

Discussion in 'General' started by Print Screen, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    The British invasion of Madagascar, in 1942.
     
  2. karlos

    karlos Junior Member

    The Thailand-Vichy french war in indochina in 1941.
    British-italian war in Ethiopia in 1941.
    Soviets and british against Iran in 1941.
    Finnish against Germany when Finland changed sides. Same with Romania.
     
  3. HEKE

    HEKE Member

    The war where Finns and Germans fought against eachother was called "The war of Lapland". Then why did Finns and Germans fight eachother? Quite simple. It was a part of the peace treaty with the Soviet-Union. The Finns were to kill or drive the Germans away from Finland in a short period of time, or else...

    In my oppinion the war of Lapland isn´t that forgotten, at least not here in Finland. On the other and, most of the world seems to have forgotten this war.
     
  4. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    (HEKE @ Nov 13 2005, 04:16 AM) [post=41505]The war where Finns and Germans fought against eachother was called "The war of Lapland". Then why did Finns and Germans fight eachother? Quite simple. It was a part of the peace treaty with the Soviet-Union. The Finns were to kill or drive the Germans away from Finland in a short period of time, or else...

    In my oppinion the war of Lapland isn´t that forgotten, at least not here in Finland. On the other and, most of the world seems to have forgotten this war.
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    In one of his many looney moments, Hitler said the Jews were "perverting the culture of Lapland."

    That would explain all the hook-nosed reindeer.... :D
     
  5. HEKE

    HEKE Member

    Hmmm... thats new. "Perverting the culture of Lapland". Well he sure made his troops burn most of the Lapland while they were retreating north, to Norway. This event is also known as "The burning of Lapland". Laplanders are still very bitter about this incident.

    PS. Yea, it sure sounds like Hitler was quite a looney. Looks like this is yet another proof of that.
     
  6. Lt. Winters

    Lt. Winters Member

    I say Gold and sword beach on the D-Day landings

    I say Gold and sword beach on the D-Day landings
     
  7. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    (Lt. Winters @ Dec 3 2005, 12:12 PM) [post=42519]I say Gold and sword beach on the D-Day landings

    I say Gold and sword beach on the D-Day landings
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    Do you really feel they are "forgotten" components of the D-Day landings/battle?

    In what way?

    Did Omaha, Juno or Utah taking the limelight in your opinion?
     
  8. Lt. Winters

    Lt. Winters Member

    Definatley. Omaha beach definatley takes the stage when it comes to D-Day think of all the movies, games and websites dedicated to it.

    Lt. Winters
     
  9. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    (Lt. Winters @ Dec 3 2005, 06:19 PM) [post=42530]Definatley. Omaha beach definatley takes the stage when it comes to D-Day think of all the movies, games and websites dedicated to it.

    Lt. Winters
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    The American beaches did get "a bit" more coverage from Hollywood.
     
  10. Lt. Winters

    Lt. Winters Member

    Hey do you have any good sites on Tarawa Atol
     
  11. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    (Lt. Winters @ Dec 13 2005, 04:29 PM) [post=43040]Hey do you have any good sites on Tarawa Atol
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    WW2, or are you thinking of a holiday? :D
     
  12. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    (Markus @ Aug 26 2004, 12:25 AM) [post=27665]laufer,

    if you want some information on the Soviet-Japanese war lookk here:

    Combined Arms Research Library


    By the way, IIRC there were never any German troops on Iceland.
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    I believe the Germans were not military however they were "arrested" by the British.

    A BBC peoples war account follows.............

    On 10 May, Force Sturges arrived in Reykjavik Bay. The troops quickly secured important locations and took local Germans into custody. Although Iceland issued a formal protest, the British occupation was tacitly accepted and islanders were asked to consider the soldiers as guests and show them all courtesies.

    Germany investigated launching its own invasion but rapidly dismissed the idea as impractical. However, the British did not know this and requested urgent reinforcements. These arrived over the course of the summer and included field artillery and anti-aircraft guns.

    Britain also asked Canada for reinforcements. On 16 June, Z Force arrived but their unwillingness to share command saw them replaced in October by the British 70th Brigade. Further reinforcements arrived in June 1941; by July, there were over 25,000 troops in Iceland. These included Navy and RAF personnel as facilities were expanded considerably and aircrew undertook patrol work, reconnaissance and anti-submarine duties.

    In late May 1941, the United States offered to assume responsibility for Iceland. Churchill accepted immediately and, on 7 July, the 1st Marine Brigade arrived. Britain's garrison on Iceland returned to the UK shortly afterwards.

    Throughout the war, British officers referred to the country as Iceland © on Churchill's orders - because someone had mistakenly sent a ship to Ireland instead of Iceland early in the war.


    (DirtyDick @ Aug 25 2004, 01:50 AM) [post=27635]The British seizure of Iceland from the Germans in 1940 and the subsequent replacement of its garrison by US troops - I believe this happened many months before Pearl Harbour formally brought America into the War.

    Richard
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    By late spring Britain felt her back against the wall. Churchill asked President Roosevelt to send American troops to Iceland to replace the British garrison. The President agreed provided an invitation to the American occupation force was forthcoming from the Icelandic Government. Churchill undertook to produce this invitation, but the process proved more one of extraction than of production. Icelandic reluctance to "invite" a foreign force to occupy the island very nearly upset a timetable already in operation.

    On 4 June, the President ordered the Army to prepare a plan for the immediate relief of British troops in Iceland. The question of where the troops were going to come from arose immediately. Although the Army had reached a strength of nearly a million and a half men, the great bulk of its soldiers were raw recruits gathered in by Selective Service and recently called up National Guardsmen. Under existing legislation these men could not be sent beyond the Western Hemisphere unless they volunteered for such service. Equipment in nearly every category was in short supply, even for training purposes. The Army needed its comparatively small force of regulars to form cadres for new units. To withdraw these cadres for an expeditionary force would throw the whole immense training program out of gear.

    A review of the Army's immediate capabilities convinced the President that the Marine Corps would have to furnish the initial occupation force for Iceland. Since all Marines, both regular and reserve, were volunteers, there were no geographical restrictions on their use. On 5 June, Roosevelt directed the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), Admiral Harold R. Stark, to have a Marine brigade ready to sail in 15 days' time. The organization of this brigade was facilitated by the fact that a reinforced infantry regiment slated for expeditionary duty was at that moment en route from the west coast to the east.
     
  13. Lt. Winters

    Lt. Winters Member

    Thanks, And do you know something about a quote that says something like A general once said that______couldnt take it in 100 years, The marines took it in 3 days. Im not sure if im imaging it but i thought there was some kind of quote like that.
    Thanks.
    Jack
     
  14. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Hi Jack,

    Yes that was the battle of Tarawa (Betio Island) in the country of Kiribati...pronounced "Keeribuss". In 1943, Kiribati was called the Gilbert Islands. Tarawa was the main island and Betio island was the port town.

    Whatever you think, the battle of Tarawa is not a forgotten battle. It is etched in the blood and folklore of the US marines. Not as well known as Iwo Jima, Saipan & Guadalcanal however it was one of the bloodiest battles the marines were ever involved in.
     
  15. Lt. Winters

    Lt. Winters Member

    Damn, Sorry I wasnt supposed to post this in forgoten battles this was suposed to be a seperate one, Sorry im an idiot im still getting used to this.
    Sorry for any inconveinience.
    Jack
     
  16. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    (Lt. Winters @ Dec 16 2005, 03:23 PM) [post=43211]Damn, Sorry I wasnt supposed to post this in forgoten battles this was suposed to be a seperate one, Sorry im an idiot im still getting used to this.
    Sorry for any inconveinience.
    Jack
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    Don't worry Jack.

    12, 50 or 100 we all press the wrong buttons sometimes.
     
  17. lancesergeant

    lancesergeant Senior Member

    Since all marines regular and reserve were volunteers, there was no geographical restrictions on their use.

    Can you go into more detail why this is the case. Was this some ruling in congress? I didn't know they discriminated between volunteers and conscripts.
     
  18. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    Battle of Grunwald...oops I pressed a wrong button. ;)

    Battle of Hurtgen Forest, Battle of the Aleutian Islands, and Burma are probably the least discussed.
     
  19. Blackblue

    Blackblue Senior Member

    Forgotten battles? A lot of things involving the Australians.

    Syria
    Greece
    Crete
    Malaya
    New Guinea
    Bougainville
    Borneo

    Rgds

    Tim
     
  20. redrat

    redrat Junior Member

    the battle for the castle below monte cassino is a story to be told and is well forgotten ,
     

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