Flags of our Fathers / Letters from Iwo Jima

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  1. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    I've got this movie yesterday on double layer DVD in excellent quality to watch it on this big weekend (u may know that we got here holiday - Day of Defender of Fatherland, 23rd February) and have seen short film about making movie and very impressed. I think Clint Eastwood going better with every movie :)
     
  2. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    It's a good film, and hopefully will set a trend for furture war movies to go that extra inch and film both sides once they've gone to the bother of setting one side up for a massive production.

    Did think the finding of the letters was "borrowed" from the Korean "Brotherhood" film.
     
  3. GrossBorn

    GrossBorn Junior Member

    I saw the film this weekend on TV and really enjoyed the movie. Ken Watanabe was excellent as was the reluctant, younger soldier. The only complaint was that I feel I missed some of the visual effects because I had to read the sub-titles. It seemed that as soon as I finished reading, the next shot was up so I didn't get to enjoy the previous visualizations.
     
  4. Compo

    Compo Member

    Likewise enjoyed the movie. IMO it was a work of entertainment not a documentary and just based on the happenings on Iwo.

    I think a geat deal of the Japanese flavor would be lost if it had been dubbed, none of that unique run away diction they have. You just have to read fast and not too detailed just to get the sense then listen to the scene in Japanese.

    I still find it hard to forgive that country for the uncivilised things they got up to under those wartime leaders and then they have not even taken resposibility by apologising since the war.

    Not that I was there, just had some realtives in the fighting. I find the movie does not soften my opinion, I wonder if it affects the way others think about them.
     
  5. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Likewise enjoyed the movie. IMO it was a work of entertainment not a documentary and just based on the happenings on Iwo.


    On my DVD of this movie is film about making the movie called "Red Sun, Black Sand" - there Clint and members of his team tells that they've used tons of books and documents to make picture more historical. :)
    But still it is movie ;)
     
  6. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Its a great film and to be honest I much prefer the original language of foreign films. Films like this, downfall and Das Boot really suffer (IMHO) when they are dubbed. As proof buy the film Stalingrad and tell me that the dubbing isnt awful!!!
     
  7. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    i understand the eminant historian steven ambrose,s son,is now himself a military historian of some note.i believe he had some input.should be very good.i will mayb watch it on nat geo in a few years.4th wilts.
     
  8. read46

    read46 Junior Member

    Has anyone seen this movie yet? It was directed by Clint Eastwood. I picked up a copy of it today in a car boot sale and it is subtitled in English and impossible to understand. Its like the translator pasted the japanese text into an English language translator and posted what came up.
    I got the general jist of what was happening but the Japs speak very fast and when the translation is all over the place it did not help.
    I am cross eyed after it.
    Maybe they will correct it?
    Tom.


    I got my copy today, watched it and feel the same way Tom.
     
  9. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    Its a great film and to be honest I much prefer the original language of foreign films. Films like this, downfall and Das Boot really suffer (IMHO) when they are dubbed. As proof buy the film Stalingrad and tell me that the dubbing isnt awful!!!

    Quite, the acting plummets like a stuka on fire when the vocal intonation is lost to a dubber. It's like cutting the actor's tongues from their heads.

    One of the surprising side effects to listening to the original tongue, well to generally mono-lingual me, is just how much of the language can rub off on you. I'm always picking up incorrect translations between spoken and subtitle, mainly in French. I'd like to claim how this has improved my conversational French, but generally it's limited to the swearing. :rolleyes:
     
  10. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Finally I've seen the movie. What could I say? Great movie concentrated on characters rather that on action with 'em. Ken Watanabe is great actor, with unusual charisma. But some of movie moments isn't good enough, probably because it was only second to Flags of our fathers, and was on low buget. But anyway it is must have for any good movie fan.
     
  11. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    Just been watching a clip on youtube. Looks like a rather good film which I'll be watching on youtube later on. Just have to watch it parts but they all link onto each other rather nicely. This clip is crazy. Just glad I wasn't in the Japanese army:

    YouTube - Letters from Iwo Jima: collective suicide
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Just watched Flags Of Our Fathers on Film4, thought it rather good but then again I know buger all about the Yanks in Pacific.
    Letters from Iwo Jima is on at 9pm tomorrow nite.
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I prefered Letters from Iwo Jima
     

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