Finding the cause of death.....109 Light Anti Aircraft Regiment Royal Artillery

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  1. chingoo

    chingoo Active Member

    Hi All,

    I've been trying to work out how a couple of members of my grandfather's regiment died. I have copies of the war diaries but there is no mention of their deaths, or even of any action occurring on the date of death. I have looked in the previous months diary as well incase they were injured in previous actions but again there is nothing. They died within a couple of days of each other in September '44 and the regiment was providing LAA cover at Cherbourg.

    They are both buried at Bayeux, their names are Lance Bombadier J. Boote and Gunner Clifford Brain of the 109 (Royal Sussex) LAA, RA. They died 17.09.44 and 22.09.44 respectively.

    Other than the war diaries and info on Common Wealth war graves commission, is there another way of getting details?

    Many thanks,

    Ian
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    A death cert would give that

    perhaps a forum member will have an FMP account and answer your query

    Lance Bombardier BOOTE, JOHN
    Service Number 10560586

    Died 17/09/1944

    Aged 24

    359 Bty., 109 (7th Bn. The Royal Sussex Regt.) Lt. A.A. Regt.
    Royal Artillery

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    https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2013/104/56273419_136604840195.jpg



    Gunner BRAIN, CLIFFORD EDWARD
    Service Number 11058598

    Died 22/09/1944

    Aged 22

    109 (7th Bn. The Royal Sussex Regt.) Lt. A.A. Regt.
    Royal Artillery

    Son of Edward and Ethel Elvira Brain, of Bath, Somerset.


    INSCRIPTION
    IN LOVING MEMORY OF A DEAR SON. AT REST

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    https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2013/98/56273486_136553696434.jpg

    regards
    Clive
     
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  3. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    For record only, full CWGC details:
    Casualty
    Lance Bombardier BOOTE, JOHN
    Service Number 10560586
    Died 17/09/1944
    Aged 24
    359 Bty., 109 (7th Bn. The Royal Sussex Regt.) Lt. A.A. Regt., Royal Artillery
    Buried at BAYEUX WAR CEMETERY
    Location: Calvados, France
    Cemetery/memorial reference: I. D. 1.


    Casualty
    Gunner BRAIN, CLIFFORD EDWARD
    Service Number 11058598
    Died 22/09/1944
    Aged 22
    109 (7th Bn. The Royal Sussex Regt.) Lt. A.A. Regt., Royal Artillery
    Son of Edward and Ethel Elvira Brain, of Bath, Somerset.
    INSCRIPTION: IN LOVING MEMORY OF A DEAR SON. AT REST
    Buried at BAYEUX WAR CEMETERY
    Location: Calvados, France
    Cemetery/memorial reference: I. A. 10.
     
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  4. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

  5. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    BRAIN.png
    Bath Weekly Chronicle Saturday 7th October 1944
     
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  6. chingoo

    chingoo Active Member

    Hi Guy,

    Where did you source the certificates from as there are others from the regiment I would like to research in the future.

    Many thanks for your help.

    Ian
     
  7. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Ian,
    FMP have the Royal Artillery attestation records and casualtly cards. The Royal Artillery Museum archive have R.A. tracer cards on micro-film.
    If you have a list of men and numbers, I'll post them up for you?
    Guy
     
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  8. chingoo

    chingoo Active Member

    Thanks Guy,

    That's very kind of you. There were 12 losses in total (including the 2 above):

    Victor Armond 6103838 D.O.D: 25.11.45
    John Bowden 1554748 D.O.D 01.03.43
    James Crabb 6408292 D.O.D 28.02.45
    Harry Foxworthy 5622595 D.O.D 19.12.45
    Alfred Freeman 2060187 D.O.D 11.07.45
    Fred Goldsmith 6398630 D.O.D 01.11.45
    James Hall 11251179 D.O.D 01.11.1946
    Albert Spall 4803263 D.O.D 08.10.43
    Alfred Stockley 14313600 D.O.D 20.05.45
    Cecil Udell 6399993 D.O.D 30.04.45

    I really appreciate your help. Thank you very much.

    Ian
     
  9. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

  10. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Additional information :
    11251179 Gunner Hall - No casualty card or information

    1554748 Gunner Bowden
    BOWDEN.png
    4803263 Bombardier Spall
    SPALL .png
    6399993 Gunner Spall
    UDELL .png
     
  11. chingoo

    chingoo Active Member

    I can't thank you enough for this.
     
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  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Casualty
    Gunner
    HALL, JAMES WILLIAM
    Service Number 11251179
    Died 01/11/1946
    Aged 33
    109 (7th Bn. The Royal Sussex Regt.) Lt. A.A. Regt.
    Royal Artillery
    Son of James William and Emma Hall, of Sheffield; husband of Jessie Hall, of Sheffield


    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: James W Hall
    Death Age: 33
    Birth Date: abt 1913
    Registration Date: Oct 1946
    [Nov 1946]
    [Dec 1946]
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration district: Sheffield
    Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
    Volume: 2d
    Page: 287

    TD
     
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  13. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Ian
    Let me know if you find anymore
    Guy
     
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  14. Mark Harding

    Mark Harding New Member

    Hello All,

    Cecil John Udell 6399993 was my great uncle. I’m interested to learn what action resulted in his death. Was it the offensive through the Reichswald. Any further details of this would be gratefully received.

    Regards,

    Mark
     
  15. tmac

    tmac Senior Member

    Guy, I wonder if you could tell me what details are on an attestation card? Would there be one for every soldier who served? My father was called up into an infantry regiment which converted to RA. Thanks.
     

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