Favourite German Tank?

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Pog, Aug 6, 2006.

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Which is your favourite German Tank?

  1. Panzer I

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  2. Panzer II

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  3. Panzer III

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  4. Panzer IV

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  5. Panther

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%

  6. Tiger I

    9 vote(s)
    36.0%

  7. Tiger II

    4 vote(s)
    16.0%

  8. 38T (not German but widely used)

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%

  9. Other

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  1. panzer ace

    panzer ace Junior Member

    tiger 1.all around excellent performer,after they worked out the kinks.but i like them all.alot of inovation.
     
    panzer ace, Jun 11, 2007
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  2. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Royal Tiger for me, ever since I saw it at Bovington when I was nipper it scared the crap out of me it loks plain menacing......

    How amy do they make before switching to the later turret!
     
    cash_13, Jun 23, 2007
    #42
  3. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    Royal Tiger for me,

    How amy do they make before switching to the later turret!

    50 made with the Porsche turret out of a total production of 480
     
    Bodston, Jun 23, 2007
    #43
  4. BlazKo

    BlazKo Junior Member

    Tiger I, one of the safest out there.
     
    BlazKo, Jun 24, 2007
    #44
  5. angeljoanes

    angeljoanes Junior Member

    Tiger I. It was said, no allied tank can even match this tank in his armor and canon. But to bad the mobility kinda suck.
     
    angeljoanes, Jul 7, 2007
    #45
  6. sapper_k9

    sapper_k9 Junior Member

    I guess that Heinz Guderian said it all when he sent a T34 back to Germany, "Don't fiddle with the damn thing, just copy it!"

    The balance between; firepower, protection and mobility, combined with its reliability - something the Panther never achieved. The Panzer Leader saw it, experienced it, and wanted it.

    Ain't no higher recommendation.
     
    sapper_k9, Jul 8, 2007
    #46
  7. Tavarish_Alexei34

    Tavarish_Alexei34 Panzer_fan

    The Panzer Iv had a 75mm gun which was very good for dealing with Shermans, but didn't cut it for T-34/85s. They should have put a bigger gun on it and it would have been a mini-panther. That is what they should have produced in large numbers.
     
    Tavarish_Alexei34, Nov 18, 2020
    #47
  8. Tavarish_Alexei34

    Tavarish_Alexei34 Panzer_fan

    I like the Panzer IV, but as I have said it didn't cut it for larger tanks. So I vote Panther. I like Tiger I very much though and in the end it was a very tough decision. The Panzer 3 I find cute though. Tiger II just over-engineered metal box with big gun.
     
    Tavarish_Alexei34, Nov 18, 2020
    #48
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Trouble there is that later IVs were becoming so heavy that they were burning brakes, stripping tyres, and even straining suspension in ways that could lead to long guns fouling the ground over rough terrain.
    It'd done well, but had just about reached its conventionally-gunned limit.

    (And hello!)
     
    von Poop, Nov 18, 2020
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  10. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    A burning one
     
    jonheyworth, Nov 18, 2020
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  11. Tavarish_Alexei34

    Tavarish_Alexei34 Panzer_fan

    von Poop
    Hello to you sir!
    I understand your point. If the suspension was improved along with the turret, a bigger gun could have been installed. Not that this would have made it any better in the short term.
    Fun fact: the suspension on the Maus was so good that it allowed it to move at over 20 kph over even ground.
     
    Tavarish_Alexei34, Nov 18, 2020
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  12. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    My favorite German tank is any which has been knocked out by an Allied tank.
     
    TTH, Nov 18, 2020
    #52
  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Nowhere else to go with the IV as a gun tank, mate.
    Despite work on Hydrostatic drives, schmalturms, recoilless guns etc. etc. they could not reliably squeeze any more out of the old dear.
    A 75/48 was not exactly a low rent piece of ordnance anyway. To fit more than that in required something more than the IV.
     
    von Poop, Nov 18, 2020
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  14. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Also the turret ring size, I think. Any bigger gun would need a bigger, heavier turret to allow for the bigger breach and longer recoil. Even if they could have managed a larger turret ring, which I don't think was possible, the added weight would really squash down the already bottomed out suspension.
     
    Dave55, Nov 18, 2020
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  15. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    This became a problem with the Sherman, too, which also reached the practical limits of its development in 1944. It could carry the 76 and 17 pdr OK but in addition to bigger guns crews tried to add so much extra armor in the field (cement, sandbags, track plates, etc) that the suspension was strained and both mobility and maintenance suffered as a result.
     
    TTH, Nov 19, 2020
    #55
  16. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    They shoved some L70 75mm into the Jagdpanzer IV, but that was not a tank and from the way they look in the photos I have to wonder how practical a solution that was.
     
    TTH, Nov 19, 2020
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  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Why does the word "favorite" (in the title of this thread) annoy me ?

    It must be my age.............................

    Ron
     
    Ron Goldstein, Nov 19, 2020
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  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I did think of a thread ..."who made your favourite mess tin of ww2 ?" :)
     
    Owen, Nov 19, 2020
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  19. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    Or who made your favorite booze? Or where were the best bints?
     
    TTH, Nov 19, 2020
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