Favourite German Tank?

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Pog, Aug 6, 2006.

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Which is your favourite German Tank?

  1. Panzer I

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  2. Panzer II

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  3. Panzer III

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  4. Panzer IV

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  5. Panther

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%

  6. Tiger I

    9 vote(s)
    36.0%

  7. Tiger II

    4 vote(s)
    16.0%

  8. 38T (not German but widely used)

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%

  9. Other

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  1. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    It's always a plus to have a good Sgt. around.
     
    Herroberst, Aug 9, 2006
    #21
  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Favourites??...
    1&2 - Great looking but pretty worthless post-France.
    3 - Another looker but couldn't really hack the upgrade battle.
    Panther - For some reason the Panther really annoys me at the moment, not entirely clear why... it just does.
    Tiger - was briefly my current 'modern' favourite again after watching '131' roll around Bovington... absolutely shocking 'in the Flesh' but unjustified in German wartime terms.
    Tiger2 - How mad is that??
    38 - very tempting just for it's stylish 30's looks
    so finally I'm going to plump for the:

    Mark IV. Most sensible design they fielded given the balance of upgradability/manufacturing capability, only one that served the whole war so it's variety and adaptability gives the most fascinating range of surviving images.

    but next week it'll probably be the 38t....

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
    von Poop, Aug 12, 2006
    #22
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I vote "other".
    A7V from the Great War because it was so rubbish!
    Pity they sussed out how to make a good one.
    Tiger at Bovy was awesome.(to use a Yank phrase.)
    "Royal" Tiger with Henschel turret was good too, pity not a runner.
     
    Owen, Aug 12, 2006
    #23
  4. J_McAllister

    J_McAllister Member

    HTML:
    Mark IV. Most sensible design they fielded given the balance of upgradability/manufacturing capability, only one that served the whole war so it's variety and adaptability gives the most fascinating range of surviving images.
    I voted for the Mark IV for the same reasons. If they would have fitted a larger gun on her and concentrated on producing more of them, it could have made a difference in the war.

    Was there a reason why they didn't fit the Mark IV with a larger gun?
     
    J_McAllister, Aug 12, 2006
    #24
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Was there a reason why they didn't fit the Mark IV with a larger gun?
    Something to do with turret ring being too small for anything bigger, sure VP knows.
     
    Owen, Aug 12, 2006
    #25
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    With apologies for the digression:
    The 75mm L48 fitted to the last few Ausfs of the MkIV was a pretty good (perfectly adequate unless more M26's IS2's or Comets were fielded) weapon in it's own right, many larger pieces were fitted on Mk.IV chassis in an SPG configuration (75/L70, 10.5/L52, 88/L71, 15/L30 etc.) but the problem was one of scale and particularily traverse. The sheer size of the heavier pieces if fitted to something that was as small as the Mk.IV (in relation to later war designs) would mean at anything other than full forward or reverse traverse the Vehicle would be highly likely to fall over. (witness the British Charioteer & Conway for examples of this:eek: ...there has to be a limit at some point.)
    Back to the favourites,
    Cheers,
    Adam
     
    von Poop, Aug 13, 2006
    #26
  7. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    What was the purpose of the Maus? An excerise in engineering self gratification?
     
    Herroberst, Aug 19, 2006
    #27
  8. mollusc

    mollusc Member

    Tiger II - half from an engineering viewpoint, half from being a very good defensive weapon system. Sorry you boys who say it was too big! Too big for what I ask? (No bigger than a Panther).
     
    mollusc, Jan 3, 2007
    #28
  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Inspired by Rich Payne's comment about any German tank viewed through sights of a 17 Pdr, my comment is any German tank that wasn't a threat anymore.
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    Owen, Jan 3, 2007
    #29
  10. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    went with the mark IV, extremely versatile, proved excellent at being upgraded, could still match a Sherman and was outgunned only in the latter stages of the war.
     
    Gerard, Jan 3, 2007
    #30
  11. MikB

    MikB Senior Member

    HTML:
    Was there a reason why they didn't fit the Mark IV with a larger gun?
 
The suspension was seriously overstressed by progressive upgunning and uparmouring - remember Pz.IV started WW2 with armour on a 30mm. basis, rising to 80mm. by 1944-5. Then there were the big Heath Robinson spaced armour scaffoldings for it to support, and the much heavier 75 L/48 with its muzzle brake.
 
One source stated that this resulted in permanently bowed leaf springs in the front bogies which in turn (somehow?) caused a damaging and exhausting left-hand steering bias. 
 
The design had done more than anyone had envisaged at the start, but by 1944 it was at the limit of its capability. I believe a few 75 L/70s (as per Panther) were mounted in Pz.IV chassis, but only by sacrificing the turret  - Jagdpanzer IV. Unless they could make the guns faster than the Panthers, I'm surprised they used them in this way.
 
Regards,
MikB
     
    MikB, Jan 4, 2007
    #31
  12. Shörner

    Shörner Member

    Jagdpanzer!

    Low built tank destroyer, made as an improvement for the stug
     
    Shörner, Jan 4, 2007
    #32
  13. montgomery

    montgomery Member

    my favourite would have to be the panther
     
    montgomery, Jan 6, 2007
    #33
  14. ourbill

    ourbill Senior Member

    The only good German tank in WW2 is a brewed up one with all the crew KIA.

    I suppose the Mk 111 or the Mk IV stood the test of time, the more big things like Tigers and Panthers were almost good but there was never enough of them. The T34 was a rush job with no finnese but put plenty in the field who cares it does the job ie brew up German tanks and kill as many crew as possible.
     
    ourbill, Jan 7, 2007
    #34
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    For those of you who love the TIGER, here is an art print signed by three tank commanders.


    TIGERS IN NORMANDY
     
    Owen, May 20, 2007
    #35
  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    For those of you who love the TIGER, here is an art print signed by three tank commanders.


    TIGERS IN NORMANDY
    Reasonably priced too:
    $0.00USD
     
    von Poop, May 20, 2007
    #36
  17. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    Yes but the postage will probably be $500! Just like those Chinese sellers on ebay - 0.01p for item and £68 for P&P
     
    Kyt, May 20, 2007
    #37
  18. montgomery

    montgomery Member

    my favourite tank would have to be the king tiger
     
    montgomery, May 21, 2007
    #38
  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    my favourite tank would have to be the king tiger

    Make your mind up monty in post #33 you said.

    my favourite would have to be the panther


    Just admit it, you love them all. :)

    :m10: :m13: :m4:
     
    Owen, May 21, 2007
    #39
  20. screamingeagle

    screamingeagle Member

    probably either the tiger or the Pz IV...
     
    screamingeagle, Jun 6, 2007
    #40
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