Fasces

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    From the Watford Observer website

    These early fascists also took a shine to the fasces, particularly the idea of collective strength symbolised by the bundle of sticks.
    They liked the image so much it eventually lent its name to the movement “fascismo”, from which we get our word fascism.

    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10500127.Comment__The_bundle_of_sticks_that_links_Watford_to_a_brutal_past/?ref=mr

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascesso much it eventually lent its name to the movement “fascismo”, from which we get our word fascism.
     
  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Take a look around in any British city, plenty of Fascine/Fasces in C19th-C20th architecture.
    Waterloo station has some good ones If I recall - possibly even with axe.

    Might have to start spotting 'em again - I see there's a Flickr group already devoted to it.
     
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  3. Gerry Chester

    Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

  4. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Gerry

    That's one deep wadi - to take two facines....they were usually about 8 feet in diameter...

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  5. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    On Page 45 of my eponymous Army Album there is a very
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    good example of classical fasces.

    It is on the membership card of the Fascist Children's group and I remember once getting a very good translation from Peter G about what they actually signed up for.

    Ron
     
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  7. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    17. Fascism

    45min "The Rest is History" podcast...

    "Fascism
    What is fascism and where did it come from? No one admits to being a fascist yet it continues to be a term of abuse hurled on a regular basis. Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook discuss the history of this most unacceptable of political models
    ."
     
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  8. ceolredmonger

    ceolredmonger Member

    Representing strength by collective action. As with many symbols associated with fascism, the fasces had a long history before they misused it. They feature on all manner of building, railings, monuments and such.
    https://images.app.goo.gl/ybbXhTzz8pyJxhcP8
     
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  9. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    Didn't Garibaldi use the symbol?
     
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  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Interesting possible flag/logo of an Italian anti-fascist group of the 20s.
    Arditi del Popolo - Wikipedia
    Bandiera2.jpg

    I find the Musso period Italian one strange.
    Almost seems like there was intended symbolism in placing the axe outside of the bundle. 'The leader with the people behind' perhaps? Though I suppose just as likely a mere old/standard variation & I'm reading too much into it.

    800px-National_Fascist_Party_logo.svg.png

    800px-Flag_of_Fascist_Italy_(fictional).svg.png


    Subtle flagstaff:
    Stock Photo - Fascist italian flag
     
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  11. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

  12. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    BBC Radio 4 - Britain's Fascist Thread - Available now

    BBC radio / audio series

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000sbdx

    Episode 1
    Britain's Fascist Thread
    Episode 1 of 3

    Historian Camilla Schofield explores a century of British fascism.

    From the formation of the British Fascisti in 1923, through the BUF, the National Front and the BNP, the history of fascism in Britain is, in a sense, an unbroken thread.

    But if the politics – or anti-politics – has remained more-or-less consistent, with a lineage of hatreds, pseudo-science, failed leaders and tactics, the means by which fascism is calibrated and communicated in the 21st century has fundamentally changed.

    In this first progrtamme in the series we revisit the rally staged by the British Union of Fascists at Olympia in 1934, as an opening onto the character of fascism in the wider inter-war period.

    Featuring:

    Julie Gottlieb, professor in Modern History at the University of Sheffield and author of Feminine Fascism
    Liam Liburd, lecturer at King's College, London
    Martin Pugh. author of Hurrah for the Blackshirts!

    WIth thanks to Francis Beckett, Daniel Jones and Joe Mulhall.

    Producer: Martin Williams
     

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