Family Research

One the basis of the above, this would be his parents marriage details.
Name: Lawrence W Mcdermott
Spouse Surname: Coxall
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 2043

Name: Margaret Coxall
Spouse Surname: Mcdermott
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 2043

Ps, Crowder is a very popular name in the blackpool area.

 

and this could possibly be his death record

Name: John Crowder
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1920
Date of registration: Feb 1989
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 1563

 

Thankyou Phil, ironically i have just ordered both of those certificates, having narrowed my Grandfathers birth down to the same as you did, i might even have figured out when he died too, thanks to a very nice lady called Daisy, even though he changed his surname in 1949! If it is the right one i can ask for a copy of his army records even though i was adopted away from the family in 1965. I will let you know if we have a positive result, Izzy

 

Hi Phil, have just found out Grandad went from the Lancashires in 1936 to the CMP in 1942, but by 1944 he was in the "Airbourne Division", whatever that is? Any ideas? Ps, the Crowder bit was his stepfathers surname, found that out today. Izzy

 

Nice work Izzy. Things seem to be moving along nicely for you.

Mark

 

Thankyou Mark, assume its 1st Airborne, Provost Company CMP as 6th Airborne didn't go to Norway as far as i can see. Izzy

 

Thankyou Mark, assume its 1st Airborne, Provost Company CMP as 6th Airborne didn't go to Norway as far as i can see. Izzy

Izzy, on this basis, it is possible that he fought at Arnhem. You may want to add Arnhem to the Thread heading to attract the attention of the Airborne Experts.

With regards the family background. It looks as if your great grandfather died in 1932.

Name: Lawrence W Mcdermott
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1d
Page: 358

This resulted in your great grandmother marrying a James Crowder, possibly twice.


Name: Margaret Mcdermott
Spouse Surname: Crowder
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1933
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 1197

Name: James Crowder
Spouse Surname: Mcdermott
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1933
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 1197

Name: Margaret Mcdermott
Spouse Surname: Crowder
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 1834

Name: James Crowder
Spouse Surname: Mcdermott Or Coxall
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 1834

Based upon Phone book enteries upto 1984, it is possible that your grandfather lived at White Cottage, Division Lane, Marton Moss. It looks like he is listed as a Market Gardener.

Very Apt if he served at Arnhem

Also, appears the family business is still there.

Crowder Nurseries

Division La, Blackpool FY4 5DZ

01253 763570

 

It looks even more curious now! I haven't got a clue how to add to the thread heading, not that pc literate i'm afraid! Will follow up on the nursery bit, thankyou, Izzy

 

Just spoke to the owner of the nursery and he said "Jack" had a drawer full of medals and that he was in the Commando's! All medals lost or sold by his wife at the time of his death i'm afraid, a shame as my son would have been very proud to have them. The quote was that "Jack said the Army were best time in his life".

 

Glad youve managed to find out so much in such a short period of time, but I guess that the service record is the next real piece in the jigsaw, although if your grandfather completed a parachute training course then it may be worth contacting the people at the paradata website to see if they have any record of him on a jump course.

The norway reference still points towards 1st Airborne Division rather than the Commando's although it is possible that he transferred to the Airborne when it was rebuilt after Arnhem.

Keep us informed,

Phil

 

Glad youve managed to find out so much in such a short period of time, but I guess that the service record is the next real piece in the jigsaw, although if your grandfather completed a parachute training course then it may be worth contacting the people at the paradata website to see if they have any record of him on a jump course.

The norway reference still points towards 1st Airborne Division rather than the Commando's although it is possible that he transferred to the Airborne when it was rebuilt after Arnhem.

Keep us informed,

Phil
Hi Phil, i am assuming he did as my Son has his wings, one of the few things amongst my Mothers effects of my Grandfathers. Izzy

 

Hi Phil, i am assuming he did as my Son has his wings, one of the few things amongst my Mothers effects of my Grandfathers. Izzy

Izzy, drop them an email

Contact us | ParaData

 

Izzy, drop them an email

Contact us | ParaData
Hi Phil, i did as you advised, and they told me that he was CMP until 1944, then he passed his para course and joined 6th Airborne Division, provost Company, which means he went back to CMP in 1945! Talk about bouncing around..... Tried to upload a couple of pics of him earlier, but it wouldn't let me, asked admin for advice. Izzy

 

Hi Phil, just had an e-mail from the chaps at Paradata and they think that he may have been in 6th AND 1st Airborne! They reckon he may have transferred from 6th to 1st due to the heavy losses at Arnhem, as they confirmed 6th Airborne never went to Norway - and Grandad did, i sent them a copy of the Liberation Certificate. Curioser and curioser, will have to get his records when i can afford them. Izzy