F/S Edward C Hunt

Discussion in 'Non-Commemorated War Dead' started by Gonzo, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. Gonzo

    Gonzo Junior Member

    My local Patish Newsletter (in Fair Oak, Hampshire) has an appeal for information about someone named on the War memorial in St Thomas' Church, but who is not on the CWGC website (as far as anyone can see), and about whom nothing is known.

    The newsletter names him as Flying (sic) Sergeant Edward C Hunt, RAF. On the memorial he is listed as F/S Edward C Hunt, RAF. There os no further information. According to the newsletter, searches of CWGC under various other spellings of Hunt and alternatives have been tried, to no avail.

    Thanks
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Gonzo

    I assume the above is all the information you have on this person?

    Does anyone have any idea why he is on the Church memorial, was he born around there, or something else

    I would assume that there would be some sort of record as to when and why he was remembered on the memorial

    TD
     
  3. Gonzo

    Gonzo Junior Member

    No - according to the Parish Council, they have absolutely no additional information. His name is on a panel in the church, but no-one seems to know how names were selected.

    http://www.ipernity.com/doc/286273/29835093

    (I'm always intrigued by the Recce Corps chap, whose regiment is given as R.E.C.C.E. Some years ago I attended the Rmembrance Service and the name was read out and the regiment was spoken as R E C C E)
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Gonzo
    Is it possible he is named due to him serving and not as a casualty



    One RAF chap from the same village
    HORNE, KENNETH GEORGE

    Rank:SergeantService No:1320949Date of Death:29/04/1943Age:19Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 90 Sqdn. Panel Reference: Panel 154. Memorial:RUNNYMEDE MEMORIALAdditional Information:Son of Sydney and Laura May Horne, of Fair Oak, Eastleigh, Hampshire
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Possibly died outside of RAF service and not on CWGC
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I guess you may need to check with RAF archives - I have no link for that but I am sure there is one - it may provide info on parents, where born, date of birth etc etc

    Perhaps another member has a link to help Gonzo research this man

    TD
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  8. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    Attached is an extract I made from AIR 78 file cards as held by TNA - only 5 blokes with a surname of Hunt & first name Edward with a middle initial of C

    Doesn't lead anywhere on CWGC
     

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  9. Gonzo

    Gonzo Junior Member

    Thanks. I'll pass it back to the Parish Council and see where it goes. As Toyah so succinctly put it, "It'th a mythtery"
     
  10. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    This chap is in your churchyard, yet seems not to be commemorated on your Memorials
    ANDERSON, FREDERICK WILLIAM. Rank: Leading Aircraftman. Service No: 1630329. Date of Death: 13/08/1944. Age: 42.
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Grave Reference: Plot A. Grave 38. Cemetery: FAIR OAK CEMETERY.
    Additional Information: Son of Charles George Henry and Alice Emily Anderson; husband of Violet Lillian Anderson, of Chandler's Ford.

    Kenneth George Horne is commemorated on a separate Memorial at Fair Oak... see
    http://www.fairoak-pc.gov.uk/War_Dead.aspx

    ... but getting nowhere so far on the elusive Edward C Hunt....
     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Nor me - I think someone (Parish Council perhaps) needs to contact the RAF archives to find out what they can about this man. As DaveB has shown there are several candidates, from Ancestry there are also some candidates but without a little more info it is difficult to be definite.

    The archives would tell us for instance if he survived the war, it may also provide info as to where & when he was born.

    Good luck Gonzo, we will continue to search but please let us know what you or the Council find out.

    TD
     
  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The memorial plaque says:

    "To the memory of .................. who gave their lives in the service of their country during the World war ......."

    From Ancestry those that died in the war years with that name are:

    Name: Edward C Hunt
    Birth Date: abt 1890
    Date of Registration: Jun 1939
    Age at Death: 49
    Registration district: Pontypridd
    Inferred County: Glamorganshire
    Volume: 11a
    Page: 529

    Name: Edward C Hunt
    Birth Date: abt 1898
    Date of Registration: Dec 1941
    Age at Death: 43
    Registration district: Winchester
    Inferred County: Hampshire
    Volume: 2c
    Page: 168


    Name: Edward W C Hunt
    Birth Date: abt 1907
    Date of Registration: Dec 1942
    Age at Death: 35
    Registration district: Weymouth
    Inferred County: Dorset
    Volume: 5a
    Page: 340


    Name: Edward C Hunt
    Birth Date: abt 1896
    Date of Registration: Dec 1944
    Age at Death: 48
    Registration district: Worcester
    Inferred County: Worcestershire
    Volume: 6c
    Page: 139

    The inferred county is where their death was registered, they could have been born in or around Fair Oaks.

    If they did not die 'on active service' i.e. by accident during leave or outside the fences of a military base, would that mean they would not be recorded on the CWGC database?????

    TD
     
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  13. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    He's added as almost an Addendum, out of alphabetical sequence, so it looks as if he (and Davidson) were brought to the Memorial Committees attention later than the others, but in time for them to be engraved/incised in an identical way.
    Might he be Korean War or Palestine, Malaysia, or simply in Service after the War but dying in a traffic accident etc?

    I've even tried assuming the C might be a double barrelled but the only ones are Carew-Hunt, neither of them anything like Edward....

    Perhaps local newspaper archives might provide an answer? Someone there should know!
    Are there any Hunt family members still in the Fair Oak/Eastleigh area?

    Of TD's possibles, one does have a Hampshire connection, but that's all I can say...
     
  14. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    As an off the wall thought and because he doesn't appear on the CWGC database, could he have been a volunteer from outside Britain and its Commonwealth, eg USA perhaps, was based in that area flying from a local airfield and attended the church on a regular basis, then possibly as Kevin says added as an addendum to the memorial plaque.

    TD

    edited to add:

    It seems the alphabetical listing is by service ie Navy, Army then last Air Force
     
  15. Gonzo

    Gonzo Junior Member

    Thanks, all. I am very grateful.

    Of the Hunts listed, the second (the Winchester connection) seems most likely as (I think) Fair Oak was in the old Winchester Rural District Council area until the 60's (it used to be a small, remote village, but expanded massively in the 80's in particular - and continues to do so).

    I'll pass all this on to The PC and see where they go with it.
     
  16. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    As regards service with the RN,Army and RAF, whatever the nationality was a casualty,the death would be included in the CWGC database.The next of kin of a national outside the British Empire and Dominions would be normally recorded by the CWGC...sometimes not, which is the case of some BE and D casualties.The next of kin and address,of those outside the BE and D are a usually a good indication of the nationality of the casualty.

    A death in service occurring after the WW2 postwar cut off date of 31 December 1947 would not be included on the CWGC database
     
  17. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

  18. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Sergeant, Flight Engineer 1274114 Kenneth Edward HUNT 224 Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Died 7 November 1942 on a returning flight near Beaulieu, Hampshire. Liberator III FK245

    He is buried In Boldre (St John) churchyard, Hampshire row 1 Grave 2.
     
  19. Ally Sloper

    Ally Sloper Member

    If a war casualty was never found,or interred in a family plot/vault or was cremated,would they appear on the CWGC register as there would be no grave to maintain?
     
  20. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    The CWGC commemorate very many service personnel who have no known grave, such as the Air Forces Memorial at Runnymede, it's not just about maintaining graves
     

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