Ex-nazi Paul Schäfer died in prison yesterday

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by Stormbird, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. Stormbird

    Stormbird Restless

    Paul Schäfer was a wartime corporal and medic. He fled Germany in 1961 following child abuse charges and formed a secretive cult-like camp in Chile. After new accusations of child abuse he fled to Argentine, where he was again caught in 2005 and sentenced to 20 years of imprisonment for sexually abusing and torturing children. He died in prison in Chile Saturday, age 88.
     
  2. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    Good moning Satan , do you want me to shovel coal or doubles.
     
  3. Groundhugger

    Groundhugger Senior Member

    Lets hope he burns in hell !
     
  4. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Evil personified.

    He is not worth speaking about.
    His past did not catch up to him soon enough.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Is there a link to this article SB?

    I'm struggling to get my head around the information provided.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  6. Ranger6

    Ranger6 Liar

    be a nice place to take a piss, on his grave
     
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  7. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

  8. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    Didn't die soon enough.
     
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  10. Ranger6

    Ranger6 Liar

    thats a twofer as we say in the USA, two for the price of one. a baby raper and a nazi... too bad he didnt get wasted in ww2.
     
  11. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    May he rot in hell

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Reading the article I don't see what his WW2 service has do do with what he did after the war. As another member pointed out (which got me thinking) the word 'ex-nazi' seems to be used rather loosely. Being a Medic, for all I know he could have saved Allied soldiers lives during WW2.

    Obviously the crimes he committed in the 60's are some of the worst a human can commit but the article kind of suggests that it was because he was in the Hitler Youth or an ex-nazi. I fail to see the connection. Perhaps I'm reading to deep into the article.

    Anyway, anyone know what that tattoo/number is on his arm? I wondered if it was to do with the German Army (Link Clive posted)?

    Cheers
    A
     
  13. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    How many more of these oxygen thieves are still around?

    Under the cover of providing dignity for the children, he took theirs away.

    The sod would be in solitary even in hell!
     
  14. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Reading the article I don't see what his WW2 service has do do with what he did after the war. As another member pointed out (which got me thinking) the word 'ex-nazi' seems to be used rather loosely. Being a Medic, for all I know he could have saved Allied soldiers lives during WW2.

    Obviously the crimes he committed in the 60's are some of the worst a human can commit but the article kind of suggests that it was because he was in the Hitler Youth or an ex-nazi. I fail to see the connection. Perhaps I'm reading to deep into the article.

    Anyway, anyone know what that tattoo/number is on his arm? I wondered if it was to do with the German Army (Link Clive posted)?

    Cheers
    A

    Andy,

    As far as I am aware the only Tatoo that the SS soldiers officially had was on their arm.
    This was their blood group tatoo.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Andy & Tom

    Purely on a technical point and nothing to do with the scumbag being discussed but very much to do with the underarm tattoo as worn by the SS.

    Go have a look at this article:
    BBC - WW2 People's War - An Interrogator's Life (Part 3)

    During the month that my unit was running a POW camp at Ferndorf it was quite a common thing for Field Security to call the prisoners on parade and tell them to raise their right arms above their heads so that the tattoo could be identified.

    ps
    See Posting No.17 for correction
     
  16. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    I've been wondering both about the tattoo and the wording 'ex-nazi'.
    SS had their tattoo - if they had one at all - under their left arm, above the elbow.
    Like Andy said, being a medic in the German Army isn't equal to being a nazi. However, the fact that he founded an anti-Semitic sect and gave refuge to hiding nazis is a strong indicator that he at least agreed with NS-ideology.
    I still don't quite get the term 'ex-nazi'. Wouldn't that imply that someone is not a nazi anymore (and nazi has less to do with having been in the NSDAP than being adherent to nazi ideology and views)? Or is it a common English term?
     
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  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    I've been wondering both about the tattoo and the wording 'ex-nazi'.
    SS had their tattoo - if they had one at all - under their left arm, above the elbow.
    Like Andy said, being a medic in the German Army isn't equal to being a nazi. However, the fact that he founded an anti-Semitic sect and gave refuge to hiding nazis is a strong indicator that he at least agreed with NS-ideology.
    I still don't quite get the term 'ex-nazi'. Wouldn't that imply that someone is not a nazi anymore (and nazi has less to do with having been in the NSDAP than being adherent to nazi ideology and views)? Or is it a common English term?

    Hello Heimbrent

    Using the word ex would designate that the nazi party no longer exists.
    This would not necessarily mean that the individual concerned looks at themselves as an ex member of that party.
     
  19. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    Using the word ex would designate that the nazi party no longer exists.
    This would not necessarily mean that the individual concerned looks at themselves as an ex member of that party.

    So it's just a question of party membership?
    In that case the use of the term 'nazi' in English differs from the one in German, because whoever is adherent to the NS-ideology is called a Nazi (new or old) - the fact that the NSDAP doesn't exist anymore has no influence. In German, an ex-nazi would be someone who changed political and ideological views, I guess.
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    So it's just a question of party membership?
    In that case the use of the term 'nazi' in English differs from the one in German, because whoever is adherent to the NS-ideology is called a Nazi (new or old) - the fact that the NSDAP doesn't exist anymore has no influence. In German, an ex-nazi would be someone who changed political and ideological views, I guess.


    I would say the British way of using the term "ex" would not specifically mean that the individual no longer believes in the ideology of the np.
    The use of "ex" would mean that party no longer exists so the individual cannot be a member.

    Also if proven that a member has changed their political views the "ex" would also be used.
     

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