Evacuation of Stalag Luft III

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by David Layne, Apr 7, 2006.

  1. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    I wish to learn more about the evacuation of Stalag Luft III in January of 1945 and the prisoners movements from this camp until liberation at or around Marlag in May 1945. I understand that a lot has been written about "The Long March" and it is the participants. It is the experiances of the P.O.W.'s from Stalag Luft III that I am particularly interested in.
     
  2. Owen

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  3. Owen

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    This from fleetairarm archive
    THE LONG MARCH
    In late January 1945, the entire camp was rousted late at night and ordered to start marching. They marched near Nuremberg to a temporary camp. From there they were marched on foot to Stalag VIIA in Mooseburg. There they remained until liberated by General Patton's Army on 29 April, 1945. While marching to Mooseburg, they frequently were stopped at farmhouses along the way and given soups and other hot dishes by the occupants of the farm, as the Germans were low on food themselves and certainly did not want to "waste" it on Prisoners of War.
     
  4. Owen

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    Veteran's (Wg Cdr HK Rees) memoirs here,scroll down for Long Marchhttp://www.ateal.co.uk/greatescape/

    The Long March from SaganI was still in two minds about the merits of making another escape attempt after the murders of my friends when in October, 1944 Joe Noble and I were asked to help dig another tunnel. The camp was now short of experienced diggers and so we agreed. The tunnel, called George, was to run from the theatre, which was ideal as it offered ample space beneath the stage for sand disposal and was only 150 ft. from the wire. By the middle of January the tunnel was almost ready when we received an order from the Germans to evacuate the camp within a couple of hours. The Russians were fast approaching from the east and we were to march in the opposite direction towards the more distant western Allies.

    Of course, the immediate concern was for food and other supplies during the march and so the prisoners started to make sledges out of timber from the huts, in order to carry as much as possible with us over the snow covered ground. Joe Noble, who was very good at doing such things, created a sledge out of hockey sticks (the runners) with a large box on top, the result of which was that we managed to take much more with us than most of the others - 3 or 4 red cross parcels as well as cigarettes and other useful items.
    As the march started we found ourselves towards the rear of the column and we walked on and on in terrible weather. Time passed and the weather gradually warmed a little, melting the snow and so our sledges were abandoned and we had to carry as much as we could manage, rationing our supplies as we could not be sure of finding any food on the march. Whilst the local people were on the whole very friendly they too were short of supplies and so it wasn't even possible to trade coffee, etc... for food although we could sometimes get a little hot water this way. As more of the prisoners dropped out with frostbite, dysentry and other illnesses we were locked into overcrowded cattle trucks and taken by train. The journey lasted for three days and we were hungry and thirsty but were only allowed out on a couple of occasions to try and find some water.
    Finally arriving at our destination we were marched to a camp where there were only bare wooden bunk beds, so we collapsed on straw, with the odd rat crawling over us. More than half the prisoners were by now suffering from dysentry, flu and frostbite. It was a terrible time and we knew that we were now being considered as hostages. We were now ordered to march back in the opposite direction again, but having heard that the Allies were making good progress we deliberately went as slowly as possible, hoping that the war would soon end. Concerns over our safety were so great that our senior officer warned the German commander that he would be held personally responsible for our wellbeing and that only humane guards should accompany us on the march. It really was a low time for us - at one point we were even fired at by one of our own aircraft, killing four naval officers at the rear of the column. By late April it was clear that the war was won and the guards even openly let us listen to the news on a wireless owned by some locals, who had kindly let myself and another prisoner eat with them - it was odd, us having a sit down meal with Schnapps whilst our guards sat on the floor eating their less than appetising looking rations. They knew the end was nigh.
     
  5. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    As I understand it the prisoners did not all leave at the same time or by the same routes. My interest is in the experiences of my Father who left Stalag Luft III on January 28th 1945 and was liberated by the British Army May 2nd. 1945 10 miles South West of Lubeck.

    He arrived at Stalag Luft III via Frankfurt Dulag Luft, Heydekrug, Thorn and Fallingbostel. At no time was he in Mooseburg to the best of my knowledge.
     
  6. Owen

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  7. Owen

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    David,this chap was with your Dad then.
    Update 5, 6th March 2004 - Flt.Lt. Tony Bethell R.I.P.
    Flt. Lt. Bethell has died in Canada, 17 Feb 04. His obituary, Daily Telegraph, 6 Mar. '04, records that he and 'Cookie' Long left the tunnel together. In the event, there was a delay due to one man being stuck and having to be pulled back while repairs were carried out. Their group eventually assembled outside the wire but their plans were disrupted by the discovery of the tunnel and the group broke up, Bethell and Long intending to make for the Czech border. They were forced to change plans and made instead for Frankfurt, intending to try for a freight train and escape to Sweden. However, they were caught, only three of the escapers made it to freedom. Long became one of the tragic 'Fifty' and Flt. Lt. Bethell returned to captivity in Stalag Luft 3, eventually gaining freedom at Lubeck three days before the war ended following the prisoners' long march ahead of the advancing Russian army.
    Found that here http://www.richuish.ac.uk/oldhuish/escape.htm
     
  8. Owen

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  9. Owen

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  10. Owen

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    David,
    Don't know if I'm helping much but hopefully there ought to be some leads in there somewhere.
    Maybe someone else will have some more info.
     
  11. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your contribution Owen.
     
  12. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Interestingly, the History channel was showing this here today.

    Battlefield Archaeologists are digging it up to find "all" the tunnels at the camp near Sagan and interviews with the survivors.

    They were mainly interested in "Dick" as it was never found by the Germans.
     
  13. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Interestingly, the History channel was showing this here today.

    Battlefield Archaeologists are digging it up to find "all" the tunnels at the camp near Sagan and interviews with the survivors.

    They were mainly interested in "Dick" as it was never found by the Germans.

    They have shown that prog here a couple of times, but i wont spoil it for you.
     
  14. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    They have shown that prog here a couple of times, but i wont spoil it for you.

    Don't hold back!

    I went to watch my daughter play basketball so I missed the end anyway.
     
  15. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

     
  16. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Thanks for those links Owen. For me it is a bit of a grey area from the evacuation of Stalag Luft III to the arrival of the prisoners at Marlag. i.e. where and when they were from January 45 to April 45.
     
  17. Ian Greenwood

    Ian Greenwood Junior Member

    You might try Forced March to Freedom - an illustrated diary of two forced marches and the interval between, January to May 1945, written and illustrated by Robert Buckham, Sentinel Publishing, London 1995.

    Sydney Smith's biography of 'Wings' Day (my copy Pan Books, London 1970) is also very informative about the aftermath of Stalag Luft III.

    Both books bought within the last couple of years on Amazon.
     
  18. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Thanks Ian.
     
  19. slaphead

    slaphead very occasional visitor

    Just started "The last Escape" which is all about the many long marches. Stalag Lift III is certainly in there but i have not read that bit yet so cannot tell you how much info there is.

    Here is a link to the Amazon.com page as it has the paperback that you can buy new but also a "look inside" for the hardback version

    Amazon.com: last escape: Books

    Andy
     
  20. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    The Diaspora of Stalag Luft III, including it's overflow camp, at Belaria is as follows:

    1/3 POWs, mostly enlisted US and Commonwealth airmen marched to train station at Spremberg. 48 hours later they appeared at the train station at Luckenwalde, 32 mile s SSE of Berlin where they were marched to Stalag IIIA. British officers were given barracks.US enlisted men put in large marquees, straw mattresses, 1 tap for each 14,000 men. "Liberated" by the Soviets on 22 April, 1945, not turned over to Allied forces at Torgau until 22 May. Some sources say 12 May. This is wrong. On 12 May the Soviet army had re-erected the wire fence they had torn down on 22 April and posted a Soviet guard to ensure no more "Allies" left for US lines then only 25 miles away.

    1/3 marched to Spremberg, mostly US airmen from the South Compound, entrained for Stalag VII A, Moosburg they were liberated by US forces after 29 April, 1945 and 13D, Nürnberg where liberation had came earlier that month

    The last batch, under the command of (RAAF) Senior British Officer DEL Wilson, RAAF were liberated on the Lünenberg Heath between late April and 2-4 May, 1945.
     

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