Europa series

Discussion in 'Tabletop Games' started by Anglian, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. Anglian

    Anglian Junior Member

    Does anyone play any of the Europa (GRD Games) series? I've got the Scorched Earth game and am always on the lookout to chat to fellow gamers. :)
     
  2. freebird

    freebird Senior Member

    Yes I was a big fan of the games, but its hard to fid the time, the space (& also opponents) Seems like everything has gone computerized now, i wonder if "Europa" will be too...
     
  3. Christos

    Christos Discharged

    No....but as I said in the intro to the WaffenSS history...I did play games by Avalon hill....and others....lots of them....I even have an unpunched copy (I'm looking at it as we speak) of Europa's Spainish CW game "For Whom The Bell Tolls"....rated by Europa fans as "off the scale!....

    Favourite games from me....John Hills original 12 scenarion design of Squad Leader.....Cortney Allens Storm over Arnhem, Thunder at Cassino, Don Greenwoods "Turning Point at Stalingrad"...thats a ripper.....Rich Bergs 'Blackbeard' (still the BEST multiplayerboard game I've ever seen, beats Cosmic Encounter or Diplomacy by a

    mile!

    The Solotaire game "CARRIER" is simply the best simulation of Carrier warfare HANDS DOWN....it's got a wonderful rule called "hit confirmation", were the number of hits you think you achieve, is never quite that which you thought...occassionally, more...often less....it's completely frustrating (and very realistic) to have to keep contact with something you already know is down, and then find out it is not, and needing to sink it, you linger in a region for too bloody long and get CLOBBERED...you are fighting an enemy with much better aircraft than you, longer range, better torpedoes, more of them....they have tactical "habits" and operational conditions of their own, which you must exploit, and bring to bear your own strike resources.....best simulation I'ver ever seen......

    Other games that made a splash in our group....DUNE....SOURCE OF THE NILE.....SIEGE OF JERUSALUM ('pocket monster' and my personal ANCIENTS FAV)...Caesar:Epic Battle of ALESIA (AH).....Victory in the Pacific (Strategic)....The Longest Day (The most accurate game on D-Day ever published...lavish production values...extensive notes that actually explain the rationale behind nearly EVERY rule, mapboard with village names and locations placed as close as they could get, unit symbols standard German Army (looking at the Map if you play the Germans is like standing in an OKW Generals conferance room...a true historical 'nit-pickers' game, and a MONSTER with thousands of counters...units down to company level in some cases (for the small tank types like the CHAR B)....great game, too.....

    Yep....the only thing I play nowadays is my SILENT HUNTER 4....the simulationists paradise that it is!
     
  4. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    I also used to play small and large hex games in the distant past, but singlehood lapsed and this combined with my nomadic professional life made this type of gaming impossible. I still miss the good days though.
     
  5. Christos

    Christos Discharged

    Que pasa EH?

    "Chu rrrr a DOn--key mistar danger.....I say I'n my bad English..." (clap, clap,clap)

    Reminds me of the average Facist dicxtator giving a speach while he is on holidays just to keep his mouth in......

    IF you are going to stand up before the press and enunciate something, why not make it worth everybody's time and effort?
    This MUCHACHOS seems to think that any of us care a bit about his opinion of Georgie Boy....

    I would rather be ruled by the benevolent "Big-Nanny" that the United States is, than anything this GRINGO has to offer in it's place....

    If you are going to criticise, it's always nice to have something to be critical of.....what a terrible politician....I bet he's "popular" at the point of a barrel and the last "election" was a farce.......
     
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Can I presume that's in the wrong place Christos?


    Or do you just not like Za.... ;)
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Que pasa EH?

    "Chu rrrr a DOn--key mistar danger.....I say I'n my bad English..." (clap, clap,clap)

    Reminds me of the average Facist dicxtator giving a speach while he is on holidays just to keep his mouth in......

    IF you are going to stand up before the press and enunciate something, why not make it worth everybody's time and effort?
    This MUCHACHOS seems to think that any of us care a bit about his opinion of Georgie Boy....

    I would rather be ruled by the benevolent "Big-Nanny" that the United States is, than anything this GRINGO has to offer in it's place....

    If you are going to criticise, it's always nice to have something to be critical of.....what a terrible politician....I bet he's "popular" at the point of a barrel and the last "election" was a farce.......
    Christos...what...the...f**k you on...about??
     
  8. Christos

    Christos Discharged

    This fellow provided us with a link of some South American leader calling George Bush a Donkey....I had a little look at it, very funny if it wasn't so serious for the people who have to listen to it.....
     
  9. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    "This fellow"? Can you believe it? Addressing Za Rodinu as "this fellow"!? I am amazed!

    Barely out of his diapers, not even a month here and addressing Za Rodinu as "this fellow"!?

    Goodness me!
     
  10. Tom Houlihan

    Tom Houlihan Junior Member

    I had a few of the Europa games, before they were caught in a housefire. I never really got to play them with an opponent, but I dreamed...

    One day in the barracks, I laid out three game maps. I had Narvik on one side of the room, running all the way to Athens near my feet. I would so loved to have been able to play that!!!

    Maybe someday I can. What I wanted to do was have a whole bunch of people to paly. Each side would have a high command. The umpire would have a copy of AH's Fortress Europe game. As the High Command dictated the war, individual games would start using the Europa series. The course of the individual Europa games would dictate the course of the overall games.

    Ideally, this would have been conducted at a college, during a major break. I figure it would have taken at least a dozen people to run it properly.

    Hey, I can dream, can't I????
     
  11. Christos

    Christos Discharged

    Wow...what a fantasy.....such monsters were often made in the early days, before people like John Prados came out with strategic designs like "Thgird Reich' with economic rules that gave 'realistic' ( in terms of numbers) results.....I will gladly trade you my unpunched copy of "For whom the Bell Tolls" if you've got something to trade....I have been looking for acopy of Rich Bergs "Blackbeard' for a while...that wonderful design seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
     
  12. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Senior Member

    I own the entire GDW Europa series of games among about two or three hundred other "paper" wargame titles. Haven't played many of them in years though as I prefer miniatures.
     
  13. freebird

    freebird Senior Member

    I have actually had the pleasure of playing FITE/SE. (Fire in the East/Scorched Earth) There were 6 players, i was one of the 3 Russian commanders, with Baltic/Leningrad/Finland in my very (un)capable hands! My first try, I was such a newbie, crying for the biggest share of the re-inforcements, I over-defended the northern section (Kandalaska) and managed to get them all isolated. (Sorry Za Rodinu - I failed the motherland!) Not my finest moment for sure but a great learning experience! And I was playing an expert Wermacht commander, a real brilliant gamer.
     
  14. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Senior Member

    Back when I was more regularly playing boardgames I actually thought out an absolutely devastating opening sequence for the Germans in FITE/SE that was virtually unstoppable before Leningrad fell. I have never seen a similar opening sequence played out even at game conventions.
     

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