East Surrey Regiment-1943 deployment to Tunis.

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  1. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    I am trying to compile a file on my great grandfather who died whilst in deployment to tunis as part of the East Surrey Regiments First Battalion on 23rd Febuary 1943 and wish to know more to what this regiments role was in Tunis at this time and what impact it had on the war if any. If someone could supply me details as to there deployment and action in this stage it would be much appreciated.

    I look forward to hearing from you

    Many Thanks in advance
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Jay, welcome to the forum.
    I'll just go & check in the 78th Div History & Battle Axe Div by Ken Ford.
    EDIT: quite abit of info regarding fighting from 26th February onwards not too much about 23/2/43.

    This bit from 'Battleaxe Division' by Ken Ford page 62.

    11th Brigade held a long front looking arcoss the Goubellat Plain , a vast no-man's-land populated by Arabs and the occasional reconnaisance patrol from either side . The Northamptons were on the left, the East Surreys in the centre and the Lancashire Fusiliers on the right, with 56 Recce Regiment's armoured cars .
    The positions were widely dispersed with the East Surrey's covering 7 miles of front.
    Ahead of the East Surreys' lines was Fort McGregor, an isolated rocky knoll rising out tof the flat plain, named by the Americans who had previously held the feature.
    'D' company commanded by Major Brooke Fox , was sent up on the hill to establish a forward position.

    Extract from map from 78th Divisional History, 'Algiers To Austria' by Cyril Ray.
    Shows location of Fort McGregor.
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  3. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    Hi Owen,

    Thank you very much for this information it will all help in compiling the file on my great grandfather, If you do have any further information whether its about the regiment itself or the campaign please let me know.

    Many Thanks
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  5. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    Hi Owen,

    Thank you very much for your help in this matter.

    Many Thanks
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You'll enjoy both books, the East Surreys get lots of mentions.
    They'll explain what they did all the way from UK to Tunisia & beyond.
    If you can get to National Archives in Kew, look this up, the battalion War Diary
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    WO 175/519
    1 East Surrey Regiment
    Covering dates1942 Oct.- 1943 June

    WO 166/8681
    1 East Surrey Regiment
    Covering dates1942 Jan.- Sept.
     
  7. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    Thaks again owen. Can you possibly advise where we would be able to locate personal and regimental photos or would these also be mentioned in kew
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  9. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    Hi Owen,

    I am in the process of contacting the Regimental museum but slow responses unfortunately are very frustrating.

    Many Thanks
     
  10. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Remember that regimental museums are often staffed by volunteers or retired members of the regiment. As such, expect a long wait, even by email. They may only have one person answering 100s of enquiries.
     
  11. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    Ok paul i will await there response. Just as a quick query my Great Grandfather is listed as a Commonwealth War Dead on hes certificate.

    Could you advise as to what exactly this means?

    Many Thanks
     
  12. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    I suspect it's because Britain is part of the Commonwealth, and all dead from WW1/WW2 are commemorated by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
     
  13. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    ok paul i will await a responce. Just as a quick note my grand father on hes certificate is listed as Commonwealth War Dead can you advise as to what exactly this means.

    Many Thanks
     
  14. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

  15. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    ok paul i will await a responce. Just as a quick note my grand father on hes certificate is listed as Commonwealth War Dead can you advise as to what exactly this means.

    Many Thanks

    Eh? I thought I'd answered that above?
     
  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Casualty Type = Commonwealth War Dead.

    Does exactly what it says on the tin in my book. Being a UK National when he was killed he was part of the Commonwealth including countries like South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, India etc etc etc.

    Welcome to the forum by the way :D

    Regards
    Andy
     
  17. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  18. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    ok thanks a lot guys this is really helping me. I just werent sure if he was KIA or wounded then died. Unfortunately we were never really told a lot about him. I have only been given a regiment and name to try and track down hes history.
     
  19. idler

    idler GeneralList

    I am in the process of contacting the Regimental museum but slow responses unfortunately are very frustrating.


    Most, if not all, of the museum's documents are now in the Surrey History Centre in Woking. It's becoming quite common for museums to pass paperwork on to the county archives so it can be better preserved.
     
  20. Jay1991

    Jay1991 Junior Member

    thank you for your help idler i will have to pay a visit soon to see what files i can dig up
     

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