Dual V.C.'s & MoH Recipients

Discussion in 'General' started by David Layne, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    I know there are a few people who have bars to their V.C's, perhaps someone can list them. However my question is, are there any double Congressional Medal Of Honor winners?
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Double VC winners are;-
    Capt Noel Chavasse
    Lt Col Arthur Martin-Leake
    Capt Charles Upham
     
  3. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    there have been 19 double awards of MoH (I tried cutting & pasting the list but can't get the formating right) (could some-one remove my last post please - I pressed post by mistake)(thank you :))

    http://www.cmohs.org/recipients/double.htm
     
  4. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Captain Charles Upham VC and Bar 1908 - 1994 was the only combat solsier to receive two VC's.

    Charles Upham VC and Bar - Hurunui District Council

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    Captain Charles Upham VC & Bar - 20th Bn, ( Canterbury Regiment ) 2nd NZEF
    [​IMG] Enlisted in 1939 at the outbreak of World War II, Sergeant Upham left New Zealand with the advance party of the 20th Battalion in the 1st Echelon New Zealand Division. He saw active service in Greece, Crete and North Africa. Lieutenant Upham was awarded the Victoria Cross for 9 days of sustained and conspicuous heroism, skill and leadership in Crete in May 1941. He was badly wounded in his shoulder and arm on the 4th day.
    The bar, or second Victoria Cross, was awarded to Captain Upham for battle actions in North Africa at Minqar Qaim on 28 and 29 June 1942 where he played a fearless and conspicuous role in observation when on defence and led his company when the encircled New Zealand Division successfully broke out in a night action.
    Captain Upham’s use of hand grenades in this battle were legendary. Again at Ruweisat Ridge 14 - 15 July 1942 his role on attack and reconnaissance was outstanding. He was severely wounded during this action but kept with his men until captured by a German tank brigade.
     
  5. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    [FONT=&quot]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/GEOFFS%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Double
    Award Winners[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Of the 3,429 Medals of Honor awarded since the inception of the award, 19 individual servicemen have received TWO awards of the Medal. It is these 19 DOUBLE AWARDEES that often create the greatest amount of confusion when one is examining Medal of Honor statistics. To better understand the numbers it is necessary to break these 19 heroes into three groups. [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]During World War I a total of 8 Marines received Medals of Honor. Two were Marine aviators of the 1st Marine Aviation Force. The remaining six were members of the 5th and 6th Regiments of the 2nd Division, working closely with their Army counterparts. Five of the six received BOTH the Army and Navy Medals of Honor for the same deed, with a separate citation from each branch of service. The sixth Marine, Fred William Stockham, received ONLY the Army Medal of Honor for the action that cost him his life.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The FIVE Marine Corps Heroes who received BOTH the Army and the Navy Medal of Honor for the same action during World War I are listed below.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Name[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Date of Action[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Unit:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]GySgt Charles F. Hoffman[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT][FONT=&quot] aka: Ernest August Janson[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jun 6, 1918[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2nd Division, 5th Regiment[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sgt Louis Cukela[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jul 18, 1918[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2nd Division, 5th Regiment[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]KIA[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sgt Matej Kocak[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jul 18, 1918[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2nd Division, 5th Regiment[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pvt John Joseph Kelly[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Oct 3, 1918[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2nd Division, 6th Regiment[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]KIA[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Cpl John Henry Pruitt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Oct 3, 1918[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2nd Division, 6th Regiment[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The remaining 14 heroes received DOUBLE awards for SEPARATE ACTIONS (each of them performing two individual acts of heroism.) These 14 double awardees sometimes cause additional confusion when one views Medal of Honor statistics counted by war or period because 7 of the heroes received their Medal during the SAME WAR OR PERIOD so they are often counted only once, while 7 others received their awards in SEPARATE WARS OR PERIODS so they are counted twice.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The Seven Heroes listed here received TWO Medals of Honor for SEPARATE ACTIONS DURING THE SAME WAR OR PERIOD.
    *[/FONT]Indicates Non-Combat Award[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Name[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]War/Period[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d Lt. Thomas Ward Custer[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Army[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Civil War[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Apr 3, 1865[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Apr 6, 1865[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pvt Henry Hogan[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Army[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Indian Wars[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Oct 21, 1876[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sep 30, 1877[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sgt. William Wilson[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Army[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Indian Wars[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Mar 28, 1872[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sep 29, 1872[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]O/Seaman Robert A. Sweeney[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1871-1898[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Oct 26, 1881*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Dec 20, 1883*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Cpt/MT Albert Weisbogel[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1871-1898[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jan 11, 1874*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Apr 27, 1876*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Cpt/H Louis Williams[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT][FONT=&quot] aka Ludwig Andreas Olsen[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1871-1898[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Mar 16, 1883*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jun 13, 1884*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Watertender John King[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1899-1910[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]May 29, 1901*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sep 13, 1909*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The Seven Heroes listed here received TWO Medals of Honor for SEPARATE ACTIONS DURING DIFFERENT WARS/PERIODS.
    *[/FONT]Indicates Non-Combat Award[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Name[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]War/Period[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Date[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Frank Dwight Baldwin[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Army[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Civil War[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jul 12, 1864[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Indian Wars[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Nov 8, 1874[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]John Cooper[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT][FONT=&quot] aka: John Laver Mather[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Civil War[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Aug 5, 1864[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1865-1870[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Apr 26, 1865*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]John Lafferty[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT][FONT=&quot] aka: John Laverty[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Civil War[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]May 25, 1864[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1871-1898[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sep 14, 1881*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]John Mullen[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Civil War[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Mar 17, 1865[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Interim 1865-1870[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]May 1, 1865*[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Daniel Joseph Daly[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]USMC[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]China[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Aug 14, 1900[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Haiti[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Oct 24, 1915[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]John McCloy[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Navy[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]China[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jun 20, 1900[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Mexico[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Apr 22, 1914[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Smedley Darlington Butler[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]USMC[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]1st AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Mexico[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Apr 22, 1914[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]2d AWARD[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Haiti[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Nov 17, 1915[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
     
  6. montgomery

    montgomery Member

    yes upham got two in ww2 and he was the only person get that much even better he almost got a third.
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Anyone know how many MoH's were awarded during WW2?

    I've seen a book that says 433, Wiki says 466 and another site was 420 something at this point I thought I'd ask on here :lol:

    I appreciate the Navy and Marines have a different MoH which may create different totals. I'm looking for a total of all types awarded during WW2 regardless of service.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  8. levien

    levien Just a member

    Heard once two "nasty" rumours about VC's:
    1. The reason why relatively much officers were awarded a VC is that you need at least two officers to confirm the act of bravery.
    2. The reason why so many VC's were rewarded posthumously is because there is a pension attached to it.
    Are these rumours true?

    Levien.
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    There is a pension given to recipients of VC's and GC's but in the big scheme of things it's not life changing amounts of money.

    The witness thing is not strictly true. Durinng WW2 at least one chap was awarded a VC on the testimony of a German Officer who recommended him for the highest bravery award Britain had. (See my VC's of WW2 thread)
     
  10. levien

    levien Just a member

    Thanks, most interesting that about the German officer.

    Levien.
     
  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It was a Royal Naval officer off the coast of Norway I believe in 1940....

    Lieutenant Commander Gerard Broadmead Roope his was the first VC of WW2 :)
     
  12. levien

    levien Just a member

    Yes, I just read your post about him (and others) in the other thread.

    That German testimony explains why the VC was rewarded in 1946.
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    There's quite a few medals awarded like that. Witness's get taken prisoner and the true facts never emerge until after the war. Quite a few George Cross recipients spring to mind that were executed by the Japanese in Hong Kong. The powers that be never knew what had happened until after the war.

    The pension by the way is around £1,500 a year for British soldiers. The Australians and Canadians pay around $3,000 to their recipients.
     
  14. levien

    levien Just a member

    Indeed it's not a life changing amount of money.
     
  15. Gibbo

    Gibbo Senior Member

    One reason why so many VCs are posthumous is that, until 30 or 40 years ago, only the VC and a Mention in Dispatches could be awarded posthumously. You sometimes read about a man who won the DSO or DCM but 'probably would have been awarded the VC if he'd been killed in the act.'

    It's occasionally claimed that a man was awarded a medal other than the VC posthumously: in these cases, he was killed in a separate action between the act that won him his medal and the actual award.

    In WWI many soldiers believed that the MM was introduced to reduce the number of DCMs being awarded. A holder of the DCM received a £20 bounty and if he was entitled to an army pension received an extra 6 pence a day, which was significant to an other rank of the day.
     

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