It's sad that the effects of the Cold War are still around. Russia's role is still downplayed and most Americans still think that they "won world war 2" (as an average American would put it). You live in a democracy now; you have no excuse of being brainwashed! The statistics and the numbers and the stories and the facts and the... they are all out there. Read them! Observe them! Think about them! And only then make up your mind. D-Day was not a turning point - of any kind! To my surprise, there were even some American historians that admitted it. D-Day only shortened the war and decreased casualties on other fronts. Operation Overlord achieved what would otherwise have been achieved by – at that time – rapidly moving Soviet army. Battle of Britain was a stalemate! But if the Battle was lost, it would NOT mean the end of the Eastern Front. The defeat over skies would only result in the invasion (Nazi’s Operation Overlord?), in order to guarantee a full defeat of England. As a result Hitler would end up stretching his forces into England. If that would happen, we today would be posting that in the “Hitler’s Biggest Mistakes” thread. The supplies that were sent to Russia by the American government were absolutely nothing! If you are someone who is deceived by it and cheer, “Oh my, the great USA, if it wasn’t for the supplies the Russians would never stand a chance”, you are a sad person who would listen to anything your government would say. It was actually documented that most of the equipment sent, was either obsolete or outdated or old or even non-functioning, and the quantities were only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what a country that wasn't bombed on a daily basis could send. The USA was just looking to clean up their image while Russian soldiers and civilians were being killed by the millions. Imagine World War 2 without Zhukov, or Choikov just to name a few. You can forget your Patton and Eisenhower. Without Zhukov for instance, Stalin would find out that Moscow has been taken, Stalingrad has fallen, and Kursk was just another victory for the Nazis. Next thing you know, all of USSR has fallen to Hitler (the actual consequences are another “what if”, as without a question there would be the strongest partisan movement in history). With USSR in his hands, Hitler could proceed with the original plan of merging with the African and Middle Eastern Theatre. Invading Europe – or any occupied region – at this point would not be “Operation Liberating Mankind”, but “Operation Suicide”. And as for Japan, well, unless you actually listen to Russian Veterans, chances are you won’t even think about what that front would be like, and of course not bother reading. Russia fought there long before USA did, and a lot of Asian countries are thankful for that up to date, despite other hates that they have against Russia. Later of course came the “great United States of America” and gloriously continued the campaign. Like in March 9 and 10 in 1945 for example, by attacking incendiary bombs, that killed roughly 100,000 civilians. The facts are out there. The numbers are out there. Read them. Think about them. Please stop the egoism and the showing off (using wrong information for that matter). There are no excuses! P.S. When I thank veterans, I thank them all along with the civilians who died for the war effort and the partisans. While a typical American for instance only thanks his own countrymen, sometimes managing to forget even the British and the French. Shame!