Disgusted - Deport the Lot!!!

More than welcome Brian - love to see these people crawling around in three feet of mud feeling for mines - or sitting in a Churchill Tank knowing that a Tiger Tank is waiting around the next corner - their laundry bill would be pretty high I would guess
Cheers

 

Right Tom, the experience of being out in front the leading infantry at night, trying to remove mines knowing there are S mines amongst them, waiting for you to get close.

Crawling along, trying to defuse mines in the dark. Try as a might I still got caught, They did get me. Keep well Tom mate. may your Compo pack never run out
Sapper

 

Sapper, if I were you, I'd actually stop speaking right now. You're in serious danger of losing any respect I personally am capable of giving you both as an elder, and as a veteran. You're perpetuating a racial argument that leaves me, and by the look of it (thank God), quite a few others, cold.

A. There is nothing wrong with seeking a better life wherever you wish. I've done it.
B. The 'truth' is that some people love to think that they 'loathe' us. Some people thrive on that 'knowledge', it gives them someone to blame. Someone to point at as the reason why they can't get a job, because the 'ragheads' have taken them all. But, when questioned, admit that they wouldn't 'get out of bed for less than a tenner an hour'. Someone to cite as the reason why they can't get a council house in their area. Because 'the muslims have taken them all'. The list goes on.
C. Quote your sources when you make your claims. British bodies dug up and burned? Where? By whom?
D. 'Your' country doesn't exist anymore, except in your mind. It's our country. It's their country.

The one thing that you're on the right track with, although you probably don't realise it, is that the majority will take care of the minority. It's happening right now. The Muslim council are working very, very hard to force a change within their society. Now, get over yourself and try to win back some of the respect you think you deserve by having a more open mind.

Stu,
I live in another land called Canada and I have read this to and fro for the better part of 2 days. Your remarks to Sapper are rude and out of line.

 

Chants posting rather speaks for itself......Cannot stand the truth, or criticism. Totally unable to accept that the terrorist come from within the same community WORLD WIDE
Along with their terror attacks. What was the purpose of 9/11 what was the puropse of the London underground bombings? To make us love them?

 

Should we have deported anyone that spoke with an Irish accent in the 70's, 80's and 90's too?

This is all rather boring and going over the same old, same old boring ground every time something like this happens.


BORING !

ps. Me and my Muslim crew mate never saved anyones life today but we did carry a Jewish Gentleman up two flights of stairs in a block of flats - Now there's diversity for you !

 

Owen
While your workmates are too busy earning a crust - some of the others are doing nowt but think up ways to dominate -on the Taxpayers dime - those are the people who should not be allowed to do so - now it's all very well saying that the Muslim Council are working very hard to contain these terrorists - BUT how many have they castigated lately - if ever -
and for the Police to tell Dave that he will be charged for defending British Seniors must be very close to the last straw.....
Cheers

 

Chants posting rather speaks for itself......Cannot stand the truth, or criticism. Totally unable to accept that the terrorist come from within the same community WORLD WIDE
Along with their terror attacks. What was the purpose of 9/11 what was the puropse of the London underground bombings? To make us love them?
Please stop the "them and us". These misguided idiots are a vanishingly small percentage of Muslims in the UK, let alone world wide. They have an agenda, which we are all agreed is wrong - the disagreement here is how to deal with it. The solution as most of us see it is to win hearts and minds, not create martyrs.

As Drew pointed out, we did not deport everybody with an Irish accent in the 70s and 80s (or the 30s, come to that). We did not deport Jews and Arabs when Irgun, the Stern Gang and Arab terrorists were bombing British troops in Palestine. Who would you have deported in connection with the Angry Brigade and the Animal Liberation Front?

 

Well said Owen.
I resisted reading this thread, knowing where it would go, and just have to say....tolerism of all views is what WW2 was all about. Extremism is the result of no tolerance. The difficulty is finding the definition of 'tolerance'.
Now back to WW2.

Mike

 

Calm down... Calm down... I've been following this thread since "This story" broke the news. As I suspected, it has spiraled into yet another racial 'hot potato' of a debate/argument.

Me and my Bro-in-Law Darren had a (alcohol fuelled) discussion about this very topic. His view was... "Because the Muslim protesters hid under the guise of a peaceful demonstration, the law was powerless to intervene." But..."If we (the English lot) staged a peaceful protest opposing the Muslims and burning the Koran, then we would be branded as racists." Fair point, and no doubt correct.

My interpretation of these events was, (as a British born mixed race African) ...The law seems to view racism as only perpetrated against those of an ethnic minority. So, because the majority of the UK's populous is white, then incidents like this can not be viewed as racist.

My personal opinion is... I care not who you are or where you're from, what the colour of your skin is or what your religious beliefs are. OUR BOYS died, and are dieing to preserve our (the free thinking worlds) way of life. If you feel today's armed forces are persecuting your brothers, then maybe you should ask your brothers to stop starting S**T they can't finish. As for the previous generations of young men who made the ultimate sacrifice to preserve our way of life... Well... Think on, if they'd had all stayed at home and allowed the Fascist, Nazi Regime to take over the world, where would the Muslims be now? In a position to stage "peaceful" demonstrations... I think not!

"Blacksnake has spoken."

 

AND - Blacksnake has spoken very well and states a lot of sense and I can only agree that the people we commemorate by wearing the poppy did save at least western civilsation from a fate unthinkable in the extreme but apparently some people in the Eastern sector were not and still are not sufficiently civilised enough to understand that - the reason that they are in the western sector appears to be twofold -1) they intend to dominate - 2) they can't handle their own terrorists - and when we try on their behalf -we then become the murderers...very odd
cheers

 

AND - Blacksnake has spoken very well and states a lot of sense and I can only agree that the people we commemorate by wearing the poppy did save at least western civilization from a fate unthinkable in the extreme but apparently some people in the Eastern sector were not and still are not sufficiently civilised enough to understand that - the reason that they are in the western sector appears to be twofold -1) they intend to dominate - 2) they can't handle their own terrorists - and when we try on their behalf -we then become the murderers...very odd
cheers
Yes.. Too true Tom. Stranger still is the faction of 'extremists' who have never even visited the Nations they claim to be "fighting" and dieing for??!!?? (7/7 )

 

Whats the Forum thoughts about the Muslims burning Poppies on Remembrance Day in the UK?
Apology did not see earlier post

 

See here!

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/news-articles/30486-disgusted-deport-lot.html#post339387

 

Violent Muslims and 'brownies' rioting and smashing property here.

Really really ought to extradite these as well!











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Zarcasm alert !!!

 

I was pretty pissed off when I read about it and I agree that the people involved in the protest burning poppies should be dealt with the way water-heater thieves were dealt with in the slums of Manchester. Ask them nicely, take careful note of who they are and then don ski masks and knee cap the buggers behind closed doors.

Not very civilized of course, but it will get the job done. Now onto the majority, sadly in allot of religious organizations the majority will not speak up and condemn the fanatic minority because they are "people of the faith" whether its Muslims staying quiet about poppy burning, bomb making, woman subjugating Whabi's or child molesting, institutionalized child rape cover ups of the Catholic church.

This isn't a statement against the faithful but it always takes one brave individual to stand up and point fingers inwards to effect change and that person is ether missing or very very quiet at the moment. Allot of the people on these "human rights" councils or that twat "Anjem Choudary" are downright poisonous and Sapper is right in rejecting these people because these people like Choudary and his ilk get under the soft belly of western society and try to bleed it to death like proverbial camel spiders.

These people should be watched carefully and criticized publicly both from within their own communities and society in general. Half the battle is the fact that our representatives chose to willingly bend over in fear of "offending" anyones feelings (cartoons in Denmark anyone?). Thats a battle only the public can win, demanding an end to public pussy-footing.




My deepest respect to Sapper, I think he and I are on the same page he however is more justifiably pissed off because its his generation that is being dumped on hardest by these arseholes and we the younger generation are telling him to "relax" and that "he fought so assholes like this can behave how they like" I'd be pretty upset too.

Look, at the end of the day innocent people—when we say 'innocent people' we mean Muslims—as far as non-Muslims are concerned they have not accepted Islam and as far as we are concerned that is a crime against God.



Anjem Choudary, BBC HARDtalk (8 August 2005Food for thought
YouTube - Bill Maher on Radical Muslims: "Their religious wackos are a lot more wacko than ours"

One last thought, we should be very careful as the younger generation not to tell people who fought in the 2nd World war "why they fought". I'm sure every man and woman had their own reasons for enlisting in those days & surely to god it wasn't so that people would be so free that they would openly show disregard and disrespect for their efforts 60 years later.

/rant over

 

Calm down... Calm down... I've been following this thread since "This story" broke the news. As I suspected, it has spiraled into yet another racial 'hot potato' of a debate/argument.

Me and my Bro-in-Law Darren had a (alcohol fuelled) discussion about this very topic. His view was... "Because the Muslim protesters hid under the guise of a peaceful demonstration, the law was powerless to intervene." But..."If we (the English lot) staged a peaceful protest opposing the Muslims and burning the Koran, then we would be branded as racists." Fair point, and no doubt correct.

My interpretation of these events was, (as a British born mixed race African) ...The law seems to view racism as only perpetrated against those of an ethnic minority. So, because the majority of the UK's populous is white, then incidents like this can not be viewed as racist.

My personal opinion is... I care not who you are or where you're from, what the colour of your skin is or what your religious beliefs are. OUR BOYS died, and are dieing to preserve our (the free thinking worlds) way of life. If you feel today's armed forces are persecuting your brothers, then maybe you should ask your brothers to stop starting S**T they can't finish. As for the previous generations of young men who made the ultimate sacrifice to preserve our way of life... Well... Think on, if they'd had all stayed at home and allowed the Fascist, Nazi Regime to take over the world, where would the Muslims be now? In a position to stage "peaceful" demonstrations... I think not!

"Blacksnake has spoken."
Chris you speak alot sense mate, I stand by my only post earlier in the thread.......... but will add this I live in England born in Wales both countries are part of Great Britain in part the same as many Muslims who are born English Welsh Scottish or Irish, WITHOUT EVER HAVING SEEN COUNTRIES SUCH AS PAKISTAN OR AFGHNISTAN, I AT LEAST HAVE SEEN AND BEEN TO WALES not quite the same but I hope you get my point.......... if you are born and raised as in many Muslime cases second or third generation British, be it any of the above countries there within........... then why get so bloody heated and burn a symbol of what is in a lot of cases that which signifies your Grandfathers death while fighting for this country, they shame the memory of just such a person and forget just what they are!

 

The Hindu is already part of the British landscape, as is the Rastafari, the Buddhist, the noisy Hare Krishna, the pesky Sunday morning Jehovah Witness, the Nigerian, the Ghanaan, the Manuel of Fawlty Towers, the Elena Vassilievnas. Even the Royal Familiy is Indian now.

Muslims have been long established in Britain and have already made their contribution. Of course for several reasons a minority from within these have made themselves more visible and heard, most of these reasons are extraneous.

Should they be tolerated? Same as these other spiritual cousins of theirs.

Boot them out! They may be 3rd, 4th, 5th generation, but do they feel they belong in the British Community? No? Then they aren't doing anything there, ship them to Gaza.

Just leave the others alone, the Britishers who just happen to practise a different religion than most other people do. Those, they have earned their right to stay.