Dieppe Raid 19/8/42 Casualties

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    KENNY, JOHN ALEXANDER

    Rank:
    Captain
    Date of Death:
    19/08/1942
    Age:
    24
    Regiment/Service:
    Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada
    Panel Reference
    Panel 23. Column 3.
    Memorial
    BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL
    Additional Information:
    Son of Robert MacLaren Kenny and Jessie Robertson Kenny, of Buckingham, Province of Quebec, Canada; husband of Ida Brown Kenny, of Montreal, Province of Quebec.
     

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  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  5. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Clive,
    Thank you for posting.
    In this country, we are still coming to grips with the August 19th, 1942.
     
  6. gpo son

    gpo son Senior Member

    Clive just scrolling through that list is numbing:poppy: what a shambles. And i'm not sure the official lessons learned excuse has ever held water. those brave boys desreved better.:poppy:
     
  7. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I am slightly confused? On the assumption that all these casualties were Canadians I checked one name from the HMS Berkeley Roll of Honour - Petty Officer Stoker Tutton H.F. who appears to be from the Isle of Wight not Canada.

    Why then is HMS Glengyle not mentioned who lost seven Royal Navy crew members crewing Landing Craft carrying Hamilton L.I. ashore?

    Tony
     
  8. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Tony,
    A very valid question.
    RN suffered 550 casualties during the raid. One destroyer and 33 landing craft were destroyed.
     
  9. Rotherfield

    Rotherfield Senior Member

    There is an excellent article about the raid in todays (20th) Daily Express by Robert Gore-Langton who does not pull any punches regarding the planners (Lions led by Donkeys) he is particularly scathing towards the Chief planner, Admiral Louis Mountbatten who put in charge of the Military Intelligence a racing driver playboy chum the Marquis de Casa Maury a totally unqualified amateur from Cuba. He quotes the Historian Andrew Roberts view of Mountbatten as a psychopathically ambitious, vain,disengenuous, manipulative adrenaline junkie and a man who was utterly careless of other peoples lives, at the Admiralty he was known as the "Master of Distaster" which says it all really. In his view Dieppe should never have been considered, all those young men died for nothing, as the raid did not save lives at the Normandy landings which was put out by Churchill, "Lions Led by Donkeys" is very apt when looking at the Dieppe raid. "We will remember them"
    rotherfield
     
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  10. Arsenal vg-33

    Arsenal vg-33 Member

    There were also approximately 15 French commandos also there, acting as guides and translators. Two of them would be captured, one of whom would be executed when he revealed himself to be a Free French soldier.

    1 Free French fighter squadron took part in aerial combat above Dieppe:

    No. 340 (GC/IV/2 Ile de France) Squadron Groupe de chasse Île-de-France

    5 French pilots were killed and a 6th captured in action over Dieppe:

    René Darbin - No. 340 French French squadron
    Emile Fayolle - No. 174 Squadron RAF - Sq. Commander
    Maurice du Fretay - No. 174 Squadron RAF
    Jean Lecointre - No. 236 Squadron RAF
    André Vilboux - No. 611 Squadron RAF

    The French pilot lost but captured and survived was:

    Raymond van Wymeersch - No. 174 Squadron RAF (collision with FW-190)

    Free French navy subs also took part in the Allied naval presence at Dieppe:

    Chasseur 5 Carentan
    Chasseur 10 Bayonne
    Chasseur 13 Calais
    Chasseur 14 Dielette
    Chasseur 41 Audierne
    Chasseur 42 Larmor
    Chasseur 43 Lavandou

    It is noteworthy that the French contribution in the Dieppe Raid is almost always absent from English language accounts, for reasons I can only imagine.
     
  11. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    One of the youngest members of the Canadian forces involved in the assault on Dieppe was Private Robert Boulanger, D/114682, Montreal Fusiliers. Robert came from Grand Mère, Shawinigan region, Quebec province.

    Robert celebrated his 18th birthday on 12 August 1942. It was to be his last, as he lost his life in the assault.

    Initially reported missing, his parents received a telegram confirming Robert had lost his life on 12 December 1942. His final resting place is the Dieppe Canadian War Cemetery.

    CWGC citation:

    BOULANGER, ROBERT
    Rank: Private
    Service No: D/114682
    Date of Death: 19/08/1942
    Age: 18
    Regiment/Service: Les Fusiliers Mont-Royal, R.C.I.C.
    Grave Reference L. 53.
    Cemetery: DIEPPE CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY, HAUTOT-SUR-MER
    Additional Information:
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. Viatime Boulanger, of Grand-Mere, Province of Quebec.
    ---------------------

    I first came across Robert's story some years ago while in France researching the war for my university studies. What stood out in particular about Robert was his age. In the modern era many young people of Robert's age are still in full-time education - at school, college or in their first year at university.

    Had he lived until the 70th anniversary commemorations of Dieppe in 2012, Robert would still only have been 88 years old.

    Robert Boulanger (1924 - 1942) R.I.P.
    *****************************
     
  12. martin14

    martin14 Senior Member

    René Darbin - No. 340 French French squadron
    Emile Fayolle - No. 174 Squadron RAF - Sq. Commander
    Maurice du Fretay - No. 174 Squadron RAF
    Jean Lecointre - No. 236 Squadron RAF
    André Vilboux - No. 611 Squadron RAF


    It is noteworthy that the French contribution in the Dieppe Raid is almost always absent from English language accounts, for reasons I can only imagine.

    Don't know what you are on about, they are listed on the list in the first post.
    Maybe look a little harder next time.
     
  13. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Don't know what you are on about, they are listed on the list in the first post.
    Maybe look a little harder next time.

    Quite so.

    The RHLI website is also available in the French language. Having a quick look at the French language version it seems to include the same information as the English language version.
     
  14. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Stoker Thomas Rumney, French ship Chasseur 13, Calais

    One of the youngest casualties of the Dieppe raid was Stoker Thomas Rumney, R.N. who was serving on the French vessel Chasseur 13, Calais. He died of wounds at the age of 18 on 21 August 1942.

    Thomas Rumney was the son of William George and Mary Ellen Rumney of Keswick, Cumberland (now Cumbria). His final resting place is St John's Churchyard, Keswick.

    The epitaph on Thomas Rumney's headstone is as follows:

    "Safe in Heaven's Harbour
    His duty nobly done".

    R.I.P Stoker Thomas Rumney, R.N.

    Attached photographs:

    1. CWGC headstone of Stoker Thomas Rumney, R.N.
    St John's Churchyard, Keswick, Cumbria.
    Grave Ref.: B.139

    2. St John's Church, Keswick, Cumbria
    (From the churchyard)
     

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  15. martin14

    martin14 Senior Member

    Was there ever a list of soldiers taken POW ?

    And what happened to them ?

    This one has always intrigued me.... he is buried in Klagenfurt, Austria,
    the only Canadian that could have been from Dieppe.
    The other Canadians are flyers.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. canuck

    canuck Token Colonial Patron

    boulanger1.jpg

    .....but not forgotten.

    Private Robert Boulanger (1924 - 1942)
    Photo taken Aug. 2007
     
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  18. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Coming into this by a long circuitous route by researching the Egerton family, who handled the transfer of our village Drill Hall to the community as a Memorial Hall.
    Through the various branches led me to Chasseur 13 "Calais".

    ... anyway, the point of adding to this topic is the reference to Private R Parent A/21236 in Klagenfurt, dying 25 October 1943.
    The initial post referred to the RHLI site which gave the list of Canadian casualties, and I noticed that on 19 August Private E Parent of the Essex Scottish is named.

    The CWGC records don't have any Additional Information, nor have either of their Service Records been digitised...
    PARENT, ERNEST. Rank: Private. Service No: A/22790. Date of Death: 19/08/1942.
    Regiment/Service: Essex Scottish Regiment, R.C.I.C.
    Grave Reference: I. B. 10. Cemetery: ADEGEM CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY.
    Date of Birth: 27 Nov 1919

    PARENT, RUFUS. Rank: Private. Service No: A/21236. Date of Death: 25/10/1943.
    Regiment/Service: Essex Scottish Regiment, R.C.I.C.
    Grave Reference: 1. E. 4. Cemetery: KLAGENFURT WAR CEMETERY.
    Extra Information: Dieppe Casualty – POW. Date of Birth: 07 Jul 1914.

    Their Service Numbers are not consecutive, so looks as though they enlisted at different times, perhaps Ernest was too young, but I wonder if they were brothers?
     
  19. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Ernest Parent was the son of Claude Leo and Edna Parent of Windsor, Ontario.

    Rufus Parent was the son of Christopher and Léocade Parent of Tecumseh, Ontario and the husband of Lena Marie Parent of Windsor, Ontario.

    Cause of death is given as "Poisoned by Noxious Gas"

    Regards,

    Dave
     
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  20. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Thanks for that, Dave
     

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