Did Any One Record 'conspiracies' Last Sunday ?

Discussion in 'General' started by noe, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Sutherland was a German spy again in "Eye of the Needle," and that time he romanced Kate Nelligan (good taste), and the end of the movie has the RAF arriving in a helicopter. Another triumph for the research department. :lol:
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    It amazed me to see a Whirlybird turn up on the moors in the 1935 movie the 39 steps with Robert Donat.

    Was I dreaming? :( :(
     
  2. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Another triumph for the research department. laugh.gif

    it was just as good as his Irish accent! :P :P
     
  3. redcoat

    redcoat Senior Member

    Originally posted by CROONAERT@Aug 2 2005, 07:19 PM
    I, for one, am prepared to retain an open mind about the Norfolk incident unless it can be proved conclusively that it didn't happen (and if the "Myths and Legends..." that you refer to is the same as the one I think you mean, then I don't buy it as conclusive)

    Prey tell, how do you prove conclusively that any landing didn't take place, if you won't accept the fact that there is no evidence what-so-ever to prove it did take place.
     
  4. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Originally posted by redcoat+Aug 3 2005, 10:17 PM-->(redcoat @ Aug 3 2005, 10:17 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-CROONAERT@Aug 2 2005, 07:19 PM
    I, for one, am prepared to retain an open mind about the Norfolk incident unless it can be proved conclusively that it didn't happen (and if the "Myths and Legends..." that you refer to is the same as the one I think you mean, then I don't buy it as conclusive)

    Prey tell, how do you prove conclusively that any landing didn't take place, if you won't accept the fact that there is no evidence what-so-ever to prove it did take place.
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    When every piece of information mentioned to me can be discredited as not having happened. Much of the information that was said to me can actually be corroborated rather than the opposite.

    Dave.
     
  5. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Repeat...The thirty year rule!
    Sapper
     
  6. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Originally posted by sapper@Aug 4 2005, 08:03 AM
    Repeat...The thirty year rule!
    Sapper
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    I don't know the terminology for back then, but what are now referred to as "Black Ops." are not and cannot be covered by rules such as these. Cover stories abound in official documentation which later get released as "the truth".

    Personally, I don't believe nor disbelieve the story I was told, but , being honest, I'd certainly like to. If there's no truth in the story whatsoever, then I'd also be confused as to why I was told it in the first place when the majority of other tales I was told actually are more interesting. I've been involved in ,or witnessed ,a couple of events that later became "myths" myself , and I've found that, generally, the majority of those involved tend to tell the truth to dispell it rather than the opposite.

    I'm just keeping my options open until someone or something totally convinces me one way or another - something that paperwork is unlikely to do.

    Dave.
     
  7. elbowgeek

    elbowgeek Junior Member

    Hi, I'm new here. A very interesting thread...

    Here in Bermuda the story is told of a sort of German "invasion". Only in this case, a German U Boat was said to have surfaced some ways offshore, and sent in a landing party very discreetly. The sailors, dressed in civvies, made their way into town (Hamilton, our capitol), bought some post cards and sent them off to the Fatherland, before heading back to their vessel.

    I'm sure it's pure poppycock as Bermuda was essentially one big armed camp in those days, but knowing the easygoing locals, they might have encountered a group of Japanese soldiers in full kit and said a kindly good morning *grin*.


    Cheers
     
  8. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Originally posted by elbowgeek@Aug 7 2005, 12:24 PM
    Hi, I'm new here. A very interesting thread...

    Here in Bermuda the story is told of a sort of German "invasion". Only in this case, a German U Boat was said to have surfaced some ways offshore, and sent in a landing party very discreetly. The sailors, dressed in civvies, made their way into town (Hamilton, our capitol), bought some post cards and sent them off to the Fatherland, before heading back to their vessel.

    I'm sure it's pure poppycock as Bermuda was essentially one big armed camp in those days, but knowing the easygoing locals, they might have encountered a group of Japanese soldiers in full kit and said a kindly good morning *grin*.


    Cheers
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    Hi Elbowgeek & Welcome.

    It would be somewhat ironic as the Royal Canadian Navy established an Anti-Submarine warfare training base in Bermuda in 1939 and was headquartered at Casemates Barracks and later at HMCS Somers Isle. (44/45)

    Wouldn't have been very good for morale! :D :D :D :D
     
  9. elbowgeek

    elbowgeek Junior Member

    Indeed Spidge!

    I am actually trying to find more detailed information on the RN Dockyard's role in WWII (and before). There are now some good exhibits in the old buildings highlighting the history, but not much depth.

    As a bit of background to my interest in WWII, my father served in the RN, with the Atlantic convoys. He did have some interesting stories: being given a gun whilst on guard duty, with no bullets. When he asked why, the told him that they were more liable to do damage to themselves with it than any intruder. Then there's the old story about the U-boat that surfaced unexpectedly a few hundred yards from his ship; I'm sure that one was something of a fish-tale.

    A bit of irrelevant trivia: Bermuda's Dockyard got a mention in a Sherlock Holmes story in which a character was noted as being stationed here briefly.

    Now I'll toddle off, as this post is starting to make me seem as if I've got ADD or something :P

    Cheers
     
  10. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    Originally posted by elbowgeek@Aug 7 2005, 12:39 PM
    Indeed Spidge!

    I am actually trying to find more detailed information on the RN Dockyard's role in WWII (and before). There are now some good exhibits in the old buildings highlighting the history, but not much depth.

    As a bit of background to my interest in WWII, my father served in the RN, with the Atlantic convoys. He did have some interesting stories: being given a gun whilst on guard duty, with no bullets. When he asked why, the told him that they were more liable to do damage to themselves with it than any intruder. Then there's the old story about the U-boat that surfaced unexpectedly a few hundred yards from his ship; I'm sure that one was something of a fish-tale.

    A bit of irrelevant trivia: Bermuda's Dockyard got a mention in a Sherlock Holmes story in which a character was noted as being stationed here briefly.

    Now I'll toddle off, as this post is starting to make me seem as if I've got ADD or something :P

    Cheers
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    Elbowgeek, welcome to the boards, and thank you for sharing these stories with us...as well as your father's service to Crown and Country.
     
  11. Stich

    Stich Junior Member

    It never did happen, no Nazis landed here. PERIOD!
    Sapper

    German U-boats managed to travel across the Atlantic and land several saboteurs on American shores from the East coast on down through the Gulf of Mexico. Why couldn't the Germans have traveled across the narrow English channel and landed a force of some kind on English soil?
     
  12. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Why couldn't the Germans have traveled across the narrow English channel and landed a force of some kind on English soil?


    the germans managed to both drop agent by air and sea but only one at a time and they were al mostly caught before being able to acheive anything.
     
  13. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Originally posted by Stich@Aug 9 2005, 08:46 PM
    It never did happen, no Nazis landed here. PERIOD!
    Sapper

    German U-boats managed to travel across the Atlantic and land several saboteurs on American shores from the East coast on down through the Gulf of Mexico. Why couldn't the Germans have traveled across the narrow English channel and landed a force of some kind on English soil?
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    Raids were made on France (Operation Frankton..Cockleshell Heroes) etc etc. Who is to know whether the Germans landed and returned undetected with or without what they came to see or do.

    The possibility is feasible & plausible however confirmation one way or the other will probably never come to light.
     

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