Did any Nazis escaped to Turkey after WW2?

Discussion in 'General' started by Utku, Mar 10, 2021.

  1. Utku

    Utku Member

    Hey people,
    I’ve watched a few movies on Netflix about the Nazis. I’ve learned that many of the ranked soldiers escaped to other countries. Like Adolf Eichmann, Ivan the Terrible... I tried to find sources about if any of the ranked Nazis escaped to Turkey. I couldn’t find anything neither in English nor in Turkish. I wondered if any of you know something. Because it was an undeveloped country and because there were already many Germans, If I was an Nazi criminal I would run to Turkey after WW2. So if any of them did, do you know who? If any of them didn’t, do you know why? Moving to Turkey seems much easier then moving to South America.
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    This might have had some effect on choices

    Military history of Turkey
    During the war Turkey sent pilots to Great Britain for training purposes. 14 are known to have died in Great Britain.[5][6] One of them was shot down by a German plane during a training flight in British air space, the rest died in accidents.

    In April 1944, Turkey halted its sales of Chromite to Germany, and broke off relations in August. Turkey declared war on the Axis powers in February, 1945, after the Allies made its invitation to the inaugural meeting of the United Nations (along with the invitations of several other nations) conditional on full belligerency. No Turkish troops ever saw combat.



    The Forgotten Treaty That Allowed Nazi Germany To Invade The Soviet Union

    From the above South America sounds a better bet
    TD
     
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  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  4. smdarby

    smdarby Well-Known Member

    It's an interesting question, especially due to the historic links between Germany and Turkey. And of course, since Turkey had a history of genocide, then it would be no surprise if they accommodated Nazis after the war. There is some evidence of Germany assisting Turkey in the Armenian Genocide. And Hitler famously stated in a speech in 1939 "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

    Having said that, I do not have any information or knowledge of Nazis fleeing to Turkey after the war. I would be interested to find out if anyone else does.
     
  5. Utku

    Utku Member


    Do you ever wonder why world just doesn’t accept the “Armenian Genocide” and force Turkey to accept it? Or don’t you ever wonder why there are still hundreds of countries doesn’t accept “Armenian Genocide” ?

    Because it-doesn’t-exist!!
    No graves, no records, no evidence..- nothing.
    Just some old people claiming there was a genocide.
    It is no wonder why European powers accept it. They can’t get rid of their colonial, brutal history... they have to blame someone to cover up their mistakes.

    All the lies away, do you know what is “real”? The Azerbaijani flag waving over the Nagamo-Karabakh.
    Here, I even have “evidence” for you :)
    Take a long look you racist raft.
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  6. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Apart from Brazil and Argentina, a number of SS leading war criminals found refuge in the Middle East countries that, as expected, would welcome them with open arms...namely Syria and Egypt.

    There was evidence that false papers/aid was forthcoming from the Odessa structure specially set up by the SS when it was obvious that Germany would lose the war and they would be brought to book...the conduit was Italy... ....not to be confused with fiction.

    Organization of Former SS Members (ODESSA)

    Additionally there was the odd ones who, it was reported, sought a safe haven in Spain
     
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  7. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    What's a racist raft? is it like a sexist dingy?
     
  8. smdarby

    smdarby Well-Known Member

    Many thanks for the reply, Utku. A few points about my post:

    1. Fact - Germany and Turkey do have a strong historical connection
    2. Fact - The Whitaker Report in 1985 stated that the Ottoman Empire's systematic massacre of Armenians met the criteria for the UN definition of genocide
    3. Fact - Hitler did reference the "annihilation of the Armenians" in a speech in 1939

    Given these facts, it is reasonable to suggest that Turkey may have been a destination for Nazis after WWII.

    Let's please refrain from the personal insults.
     
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  9. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    No sides being taken here, as possibly "lost in translation", but I've reported this post as by it's implications it's a bit too close to the knuckle for me .

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.
     
  10. Utku

    Utku Member


    Hear it from an American historian, my only answer is this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhTTDa6JUs8

    Also, it wasn’t an insult. You are definitely a racist. Don’t pretend you are not one.
     
  11. Utku

    Utku Member

    Hey,
    I am not exactly sure. A British called me like that once. I liked it. So I am using it.
     
  12. smdarby

    smdarby Well-Known Member

    Fair enough, Jim. I was trying to be conciliatory with my follow up post, but his reply at #10 clearly shows he is not interested. Repeating that I am a racist is going too far.
     
  13. Utku

    Utku Member

    Topic is not Armenian and Turkish relations. Your comment definitely wouldn’t be wrong if it was the issue. I asked a question about WW2, You came and insulted my nation. What did you expect me to say?
     
  14. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    I'm all for free speach but a line had to be drawn somewhere. There's just no need for that sort of thing in any post (and by that I mean the one I've reported!)

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.
     
  15. Utku

    Utku Member

    Thanks for e-democracy Jim.
    It is beautiful to see how peaceful, how kind person you are.
    Willing to listen your grandfathers Vietnam or Iraq mission. Text me for world peace xOxO
     
  16. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    hold and stop this nonsense calling a forum member a racist
    APOLOGISE NOW AND DELETE YOUR POST
     
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  17. Utku

    Utku Member

    Are bigger letters means you are yelling? Or are you just try to help me to see?

    Definitely no problem when he insults my nation, but huge problem when I call him racist.

    Typical western people. Lack of empathy. Uppish, as always.

    I thought this community would be fun but seems it isn’t. This conversation proved that nazism never left Europe. You are all nice until somebody doesn’t want to hear your insults

    ban me for gods sake.
     
  18. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Ah, what fun.
    Disputed genocides.
    (My phone keeps wanting to render the word as 'herbicides'... Different issue really.)

    Thirty plus countries officially recognise the Armenian genocide. Turkey doesn't & never will.
    Not a subject I can claim any real expertise on, but the balance of world historical opinion seems to lie pretty heavily on there being a deliberate extermination.
    Don't think those countries or historians can be called racist for that viewpoint, unless I'm automatically one for thinking Germany committed the Holocaust, or Stalin was a mass murderer. History a splendid complicated mess, especially where it hits still-felt sensitivities.
    'Racist' the wrong word really. Rather hair trigger response to feeling offended.

    SmDarby's more than capable of defending himself, not that he really needs to from a pretty ridiculous assertion.
    Like he says:
    Should be possible to discuss history without them, or any other performative outrage.
    If you can't calmly handle somebody disagreeing with you on a historical point, you're probably in the wrong place.

    Closing for 24 hrs, under the 'Modern Politics not allowed' flag.
    Will see how it goes tomorrow.
    (Will re-open sooner if SmDarby asks, so he can give any response he wants. Him being the unreasonably attacked party.)



    Funny. I came here straight after looking for a copy of Musa Dağdeviren's 'Turkish Cookbook'. I also think on balance the Armenian Genocide is a thing. Am I a massive racist in denial, or just currently obsessed with Kofte...
     
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