Demotion of injured personnel

Discussion in 'General' started by adam1981, Jun 3, 2019.

  1. adam1981

    adam1981 Member

    In 1943 the following question was asked in Parliament by Mr Quentin Hogg:

    Mr. Quintin Hogg
    asked the Secretary of State for War whether his attention has been drawn to the case of 6134709, Corporal Crouch, R.A.S.C., who was reverted to corporal from company sergeant-major owing to injuries received on war service; and whether steps will be taken to grant war substantive rank in this and similar cases?

    Sir J. Grigg
    It has been necessary in inquiring into this case to communicate with the command overseas where this soldier is serving. I will write to the hon. Member as soon as the inquiries have been completed.

    Mr. Hogg
    In pursuing these investigations, will my right hon. Friend consider the possibility of the necessity of changing the Regulations in regard to these reversions, which arouse a good deal of feeling?

    Sir J. Grigg
    That consideration has been examined very exhaustively as an inter-Service matter on several occasions. It was considered in conjunction with the general inquiry in the last Debate, in which the Lord President made a statement earlier this year.

    Does anyone know if this resulted in a change, or indeed anything further about 6134709 Crouch? I know so far that William Crouch served in WW1 and his address on the medal index card was Plumstead.

    Any ideas or information would be appreciated.
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    the other bit from Hansards

    Sir J. Grigg

    If the hon. Member has been listening to one of the earlier Questions asked me to-day, he will see that other people who have not been prisoners of war feel deeply about this matter too, and I am well aware of that. The matter has been exhaustively considered, and the present arrangements are considered to be the best calculated to be fair to all parties. I might remind the hon. Member that prisoners of war are already considerably better treated in this respect than others.

    Injured Personnel (Demotion) (Hansard, 23 November 1943)
  3. adam1981

    adam1981 Member

    thanks for the response, i read this as the POW question being separate, is that the case and Sir J. Grigg has got muddled with his last sentence? I must admit im not too good at understanding this transcript.
  4. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    East Surrey Regiment 6132001 - 6188000.

    Weren't Great War service numbers a different number of digits?

    Perhaps he was issued a new one...
  5. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member


    In Great War period servicemen were issued Regimental Numbers which could be a combination of anything up to six digits with men changing numbers on transfer to another Regiment.

    7 Digit Army service numbers were introduced in 1920. They remained the same for a man’s whole service whether he transferred or not. Serving soldiers in 1920 were allocated Army service numbers in place of their Regimental Numbers.

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