Dcm And Mm Research..

Discussion in 'General' started by markinbelfast, Sep 20, 2004.

  1. markinbelfast

    markinbelfast Senior Member

    I was talking to a chap who had been awarded both these medals...is it possible to findout why he got the awards?
    cheers
    Mark..

    can't be too many who got both medals can there?
     
  2. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    You could try the on line london Gazzette! However, since the medels where awarded to different ranks then it would be possible for him to win them as he progressed up the ranks.
     
  3. DirtyDick

    DirtyDick Senior Member

    DCM and MM were eligible for award to all non-commissioned ranks; the DCM was in many cases for a borderline VC, the MM for lesser acts of bravery or devotion.

    I would also suggest the on-line London Gazette, though it is tricky to search and may not give very great detail.

    Richard
     
  4. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    DCM and MM were eligible for award to all non-commissioned ranks; the DCM was in many cases for a borderline VC, the MM for lesser acts of bravery or devotion.


    i am sure I read it somewhere that DCM were normally given to SGTs and above.

    However the handbook on the British Army - 1943 states

    "DCM - To enlisted men of the Army for Gallantry in action. The DCM is awarded on the recommendation of the Commander-inChief, and carries a small pension or gratuity..."

    "MM - To enlisted men of the Army for individual or associated acts of bravery brought to notice by recommendation of the Commander-inChief in the field. "

    Also, the term Immediate used to indicate that the holder had been recommended for a VC but had been refused. You ocassionaly still see refence to someone having a "immediate ...."
     
  5. markinbelfast

    markinbelfast Senior Member

    The man i'm trying to find out about is called Vango...or something very similar...sorry to be so vague!
     
  6. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    London Gazette search

    This link takes you to the search page

    Tried Vango but found nothing!!! Would need the exact surname.
     
  7. Glosters

    Glosters Member

    I have the citations for WWII DCMs.
    No one named Vango listed.

    Steve
     
  8. markinbelfast

    markinbelfast Senior Member

    Is it possible that WW2 dcms could be listed in alphabetical order?...if so it definately started with 'V'!!!lol cheers
    Mark
     
  9. DirtyDick

    DirtyDick Senior Member

    Vango: A most unusual surname for the UK - is he of foreign extraction?

    Perhaps just a little phonetically similar: Van Gogh? Vanquo?

    Do you know anything else at all about this chap that might give a clue?

    Richard
     
  10. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    For WW2 MM's, there is a book (been out for a while now, might be out of print) entitled For Bravery in the Field (can't remember the author's name) which gives details (+citations?) of nearly all MM winners of WW2.

    dave.
     
  11. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Originally posted by markinbelfast@Sep 20 2004, 04:16 PM
    I was talking to a chap who had been awarded both these medals...is it possible to findout why he got the awards?



    Just a thought. Why didn't you ask him when you were talking to him? o_O

    (Reminds me of the Korea and Vietnam bemeddaled vet. who I discussed the weather with!!! :D )

    dave.
     

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  12. markinbelfast

    markinbelfast Senior Member

    This is the thing thats bothering me I didnt but his reply was so vague..."for bravery"..he certainly didnt want to go any deeper!
    Mark
     
  13. Glosters

    Glosters Member

    Mr Vango, DCM, MM has been the subject of investigation by several interested parties.

    It is looking like a case of 'Walter Mitty syndrome'.
    We shall see.

    Steve
     
  14. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    The guy's name is "Vango?" Could it be the commando raid on "Vaagso?" Just a possibility.
     
  15. Earl of Berkhamsted

    Earl of Berkhamsted Junior Member

    I hope this finds the relevant parties, as it a reply to a very old post.

    I am also trying to find details of Mr Joseph Vango's MM and DCM but to no avail.
    His MM was in WW2 and his DCM in the Korean War.

    I was wondering if any other members knew anything?

    Regards,
    EoB
     
  16. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    Nothing being returned by either National Archives or London Gazette, which is surprising
     
  17. Earl of Berkhamsted

    Earl of Berkhamsted Junior Member

    Thank you for that enlandphil, appreciate the help.

    Regards,
    EoB.
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Is this the chap you met in Wells ?
    The ex-2 Wilts man?
     
  19. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Very little in "For Distinguished Conduct in the Field" 1939 to 1992.

    A.F. Valentine Middlesex Rgt. - R.I. Vallance Fife & Forfar Yeomanry
    G.B. Van Der Werf R.A.S.C. - M.O. Van Hende Canadian Infantry
    G.W. Van Niekerk S.A.A. - E.E. Vaughan att 25 Fld Rgt.

    There are no further citations for surname beginning with VA,and only seven more starting with the letter V.
     
  20. 52nd Airborne

    52nd Airborne Green Jacket Brat

    There's no mention of him in: Honour the Armies, Honours & Awards to the British & Dominion Armies During WW2.
     

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