D-Day

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by Sergeant Bilco, May 23, 2004.

  1. Sergeant Bilco

    Sergeant Bilco Junior Member

    Hi, me again. A few short (probably easy) questions about D-Day:

    - What did D-Day consist of?
    - What was it for?
    - Did it work?

    That type of stuff

    Also what was another battle that was at the end of the war (answer with those same questions except about that battle).

    Thanks to anyone who can help em :D
     
  2. angie999

    angie999 Very Senior Member

    I am not going to answer the question directly, as it looks like you have some studying to do on the subject and I could not do justice to the subject in a few lines.

    Just two suggestions:

    Get down to your local bookshop, or search Amazon on the web (or Barnes & Noble if you live inthe US). With the 60th anniversary coming up, now is a good time with plenty of choice. Something like the new D-Day Companion, published by Osprey, could be a good place to start, if a little expensive at £20.

    Also, there is plenty coming up on TV over the weekend of 6th June.
     
  3. salientpoints

    salientpoints Senior Member

    Originally posted by Sergeant Bilco@May 23 2004, 09:11 AM
    Hi, me again. A few short (probably easy) questions about D-Day:

    - What did D-Day consist of?
    - What was it for?
    - Did it work?

    That type of stuff

    Also what was another battle that was at the end of the war (answer with those same questions except about that battle).

    Thanks to anyone who can help em :D
    Try a second hand shop and something like 'The Invasion of Europe' by Alan A Michie will you exactly what it was made up of then try Martin Gilberts new book on D-Day.

    Should give you all you need (and watch The Longest Day).

    Ryan
     
  4. Sergeant Bilco

    Sergeant Bilco Junior Member

    I've done research, I just want to make sure it's right (assuming people here would have a lot more knowledge on the subjects more than me).

    But thanks anyway.
     
  5. salientpoints

    salientpoints Senior Member

    Originally posted by Sergeant Bilco@May 24 2004, 09:34 AM
    I've done research, I just want to make sure it's right (assuming people here would have a lot more knowledge on the subjects more than me).

    But thanks anyway.
    I would suggest you post your summary and make your findings a topic of discussion?

    You may then get feedback on it as required. Without this the topic is far too huge for anyone just to answer your questions but of course it did 'work'.

    How does that sound?

    Ryan
     
  6. Friedrich H

    Friedrich H Senior Member

    In general-strategical matters:

    - What did D-Day consist of?

    An aero-amphibious invasion of the northern coast of France by 10+ American, British and Canadian divisions, plus British and French commandos on June 6th 1944.

    - What was it for?

    To open an third battle front for the Germans, attract and destroy as many German units as possible, liberate France, Belgium, Luxemburg and Holland and bring the war to German territory afterwards.

    - Did it work?

    Almost perfectly.

    However, I have to add that D-day was not the turning point of the war nor was it decisive for Germany's ultimate defeat. By this time Germany was exhausted and doomed. Exactly at the same time the battles for Normandy were taking place, Operation 'Bagration' in the USSR destroyed Army Group 'Centre' and costed the Germans more than a million casualties.
     
  7. Sergeant Bilco

    Sergeant Bilco Junior Member

    I would suggest you post your summary and make your findings a topic of discussion?

    It goes on for about 3 pages, I don't necessarily want to post something that large here.

    Friedrich H: Thanks, that was perfect :D
     
  8. Friedrich H

    Friedrich H Senior Member

    You're welcome, Bilco! Hope to see more posts from you. ;)
     
  9. angie999

    angie999 Very Senior Member

    Originally posted by Sergeant Bilco@May 25 2004, 06:57 AM
    I would suggest you post your summary and make your findings a topic of discussion?

    It goes on for about 3 pages, I don't necessarily want to post something that large here.
    If you are in a position to copy and paste without having to retype 3 pages, I would love to read what you have to say and it could get a good discussion going here. Certainly topical.
     
  10. salientpoints

    salientpoints Senior Member

    Originally posted by angie999+May 25 2004, 08:10 PM-->(angie999 @ May 25 2004, 08:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sergeant Bilco@May 25 2004, 06:57 AM
    I would suggest you post your summary and make your findings a topic of discussion?

    It goes on for about 3 pages, I don't necessarily want to post something that large here.
    If you are in a position to copy and paste without having to retype 3 pages, I would love to read what you have to say and it could get a good discussion going here. Certainly topical. [/b]Indeed! bring it on!
     
  11. =SWM= Capt. FG

    =SWM= Capt. FG Junior Member

    You could add a link to the site.
    But yes, except on Omaha (even though that was still a victory), D-Day worked really well. And it did not work perfectly, Most units landed a mile or two from where they were supposed to. There was a lot of misdrops from paratroopers, and there was totall and utter chaos on the beach.
    But, Yes, I would love to read your summary!
     
  12. Dpalme01

    Dpalme01 Member

    Originally posted by =SWM= Capt. FG@Sep 10 2004, 10:36 PM
    And it did not work perfectly, Most units landed a mile or two from where they were supposed to. There was a lot of misdrops from paratroopers, and there was totall and utter chaos on the beach.
    [post=28091]Quoted post[/post]

    Alot of the mistakes actually helped the allies- On Utah far an example, after D-day, after the allies looked at the results they saw that the planned landing place would have been almost as bloody as Omaha.

    In every operation, there are going to be mistakes on both sides. The germans made perhaps many more mistakes than the allies, and they probably realized them after (I hope). War is unpredictable.

    But I would agree that alot of the mistakes hindered progress.
     

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  13. Dpalme01

    Dpalme01 Member

    A bit to add to the Utah bit. This is off topic. For the most part the allies went according to orders, not changing them due to circumstances or their position. To a certain extent this is Okay. This landing to far from the beach is one place where they did well in not following orders (some wnated to restart and go back to the planned landing beach which would have wasted time). Another place where they should have disobeyed orders was with the amphipbious tanks- the tide was too high and most of the tanks went under. The Landing craft skippers except one didn't move toward shore into lower water because it would have disobeyed orders. In Italy, they should have taken advantage off their situation with the Germans on the run in central Italy. Instead of attacking them the allies kept at a slow pace and let the Germans regain themselves and secure Rome again. There are countless other examples and I suppose following Orders too much is better than not enough, and as I said earlier, every army makes mistakes, and I'm not the one to judge Ike and CO.
     

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