CWGC WW1 cemetery in Fredrikstad, Norway. Please read question about German memorial in last post.

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by Stormbird, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. Stormbird

    Stormbird Restless

    This thread does not describe the graves of the 2 Russian POWs from WW2, who are buried in the same plot:

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/prisoners-war/40125-russian-pows-buried-cwgc-ww1-cemetery-fredrikstad-norway.html

    The original CWGC plot contained the graves of 18 seamen who fell at the battle of Jutland in 1916, only 7 of them identified. The Norwegian Governement erected a granite memorial to mark the graves.

    CWG.jpg
    Granite memorial.jpg

    In 1961 a number of graves were brought into the cemetery from other small burial grounds all over Norway. The cemetery now contains a total of 82 burials of the WW1, 51 of them unidentfied. (Which miraculously makes up with my own maths and photos!)

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    Axe.jpg

    Axe T A
    Petty officer
    216370
    RN
    DOD 010616

    TBC......
     
  2. Stormbird

    Stormbird Restless

    Beadle.jpg
    Beadle A J
    Able seaman
    J/19967
    RN
    DOD 171017

    Blakely.jpg
    Blakely J H
    Ordinary seaman
    J/49849
    RN
    DOD 010616

    Brown.jpg
    Brown G
    Surgeon
    RNVR
    DOD 211017

    TBC
     
  3. Stormbird

    Stormbird Restless

    Calvert.jpg
    Calvert F J
    Gunner
    RN
    M/17540
    RN
    DOD 121217
    Age 36

    Chalmers.jpg
    Chalmers George Doig G D
    Acting Engine Room Artificer 4th class
    M/17540
    RN
    DOD 211017
    Age 21

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    Chaplain Henry Edward
    Able Seaman
    J/42068
    RN
    DOD 211017
    Age 31

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    Clark Frank F
    Signalman
    Bristol Z/9148
    RNVR
    DOD 171017
    Age 19

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    Clarke F W
    Able Seaman
    I84591
    RN
    DOD 080815

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    Coombe W
    Leadimg Seaman
    J/4743
    RN
    DOD 211017

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    Cooper A C
    Master
    Mercantile Marine
    211017
    Age 56

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    Creek A C
    Ablr Seaman
    London Z /2950
    RNVR
    DOD 121217
    Age 19
     
  4. Stormbird

    Stormbird Restless

    Dransfield.jpg
    Dransfield F
    Ordinary Seaman
    J/61410
    RN
    DOD 121217

    Ellis.jpg
    Elllis C
    Leading Seaman
    Sussex 3/224
    RNVR
    DOD 211017
    Age 23

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    Holden A
    Ordinary Seaman
    J/51186
    RN
    DOD 171017

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    Jones Arthur
    Stoker
    1593/U
    RNR
    DOD 310516
    Age 48

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    Jones E I
    Ordinary Seaman
    J/63703
    RN
    DOD 211017
    Age 20

    Lever.jpg
    Lever George
    Private
    PO/5812
    Royal Marine Light Infantry
    DOD 010616
    Age 43

    Mason.jpg
    Mason J
    Stoker 1st Class
    229299
    RN
    DOD 211017

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    Pearse A C J
    Engine Room Artificer 1st Class
    270869
    RN
    DOD 190816

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    Pearson Donald
    Engineer Lieutenant
    RN
    DOD 211017
    Age 29

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    Percy Algernon William
    Sub-lieutenant
    RNR
    DOD 310516
    Age 31

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    Robinson S
    Able Seaman
    205032
    RN
    DOD 080815

    Stancliffe.jpg
    Stancliffe J
    Able Seaman
    SS/4845
    RN
    DOD 121217

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    Stephens W A
    Cook's mate
    M/3454
    RN
    DOD 211017

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    Stott Arthur
    Able Seaman
    J/16139
    RN
    DOD 010616

    Walker.jpg
    Walker E J
    Ship's cook
    Mercantile Marine
    DOD 150417

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    Ward C E
    Stoker 1st Class
    K/26128
    RN
    DOD 171017
    Age 22


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    West John
    Stoker 1st Class
    297116
    RN
    DOD 211017
    Age 34

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    Wyatt Arnold Baker
    Midshipman
    RNR
    DOD 121217
    Age 20
     
  5. Stormbird

    Stormbird Restless

    Several crewmembers from HMS "Partridge" are buried side by side, just behind the large cross.

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    HMS Partridge.jpg

    There are of course scores of these:
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    Often the ship is named, even if the sailor was unidentified

    Inside the compound there is a German memorial:
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    It's a bit puzzling, that even if the plaque describes how the bodies of the 13 German soldiers originally buried here, were exhumed in 1962 and moved to the German military cemetery in Alfaset, Oslo, their names are still engraved in the stone and phrased as if they were still buried in this plot. Note top line of stone reading "Hier ruhen dreizehn tapfere deutsche seeleute.." This would in English be "Here rest thirteen brave German seamen.."
    Are there other examples around the world of this?

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    1914 - 1918 This plot of land is the gift of the Norwegian people as the resting place of the British sailors who are honoured here.


    This place is special because of its spaciousness and the tall trees, a park rather than a cemetery:

    Park.jpg



    I did this documentation job fully aware that the cemetery is a WW1 one, as I was stuck in Fredrikstad for a Saturday afternoon anyway. I was amazed at finding the two Russian POW WW2 graves here (referred to in post #1) especially since they are not mentioned in the CWGC cemetery report.

    On the other hand, having the CWGC data available made me realise I have sadly missed one grave:

    Shackell F
    Butcher's mate
    Mercantile Marine Reserve
    DOD 080815

    So much for maths and miracles.
     
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  6. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria.

    How many times i have been to a cemetery got home looked up all the details to go with the pictures and damn you have missed one or two. Well done Stormbird not alot i can add to your thread but i liked it.

    Regards Michael.
     

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