CWGC Deaths by Country by Service 1939-1945

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by spidge, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    This spreadsheet was made for another purpose however thought I would post the result to see if there are any queries, corrections or comments. (Civilian deaths not listed)

    The JPEG did not transfer too well, so the actual spread is listed.

    CWGC deaths by service and Country 39-45.jpg
     
  2. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    Thanks Geoff.

    It's an interesting comparison with the CWGC figures given on wiki because they've obviously used the 1939-47 figures.

    Now the question is whether the 1945-47 numbers should be used as part of the WW2 casualty figures (I know some of whom died of wounds, and others died in accidents and operations) or whether, for direct comparisons, only 1939-45 numbers should be used?
     
  3. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Thanks Geoff.

    It's an interesting comparison with the CWGC figures given on wiki because they've obviously used the 1939-47 figures.

    Now the question is whether the 1945-47 numbers should be used as part of the WW2 casualty figures (I know some of whom died of wounds, and others died in accidents and operations) or whether, for direct comparisons, only 1939-45 numbers should be used?

    I think we have discussed the anomalies that occur from where one person uses a particular criterion or criteria and publishes, then picked up by someone else who would in turn attached their own criterion/a and the original figures are lost.

    In mine, I have allowed to the end of 1945 which allows 4 months after the Pacific war ended.

    I was mainly interested in the numbers from when the war commenced to the end of hostilities when the Commonwealth forces commenced their disbandment. I purposely did not include civilian casualties.
     
  4. Belville

    Belville Senior Member

    It should be remembered that the nationalities listed are those of the services, not of the individuals. An estimated 78,000 from the Irish Free State served in the British Army, and many others in the other forces. Also not mentioned are the other nationalities, such as the Poles.
    Belville
     
  5. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    It should be remembered that the nationalities listed are those of the services, not of the individuals. An estimated 78,000 from the Irish Free State served in the British Army, and many others in the other forces. Also not mentioned are the other nationalities, such as the Poles.
    Belville

    The contribution of the Irish Free state and that of the Poles and others has been discussed here previously.

    The use of these figures was initially to settle a statement made by an acquaintance of a friend who "denigrated" the Australian contribution in WW2. These figures were also associated with per capita enlistment numbers.

    The cry from the acquaintance was "show me the proof", "show me the proof"!

    His ignorance and inability to differentiate between fact and fiction required a response.

    His statement..........

    Compared to Britain and the US Australia's contribution to WW2 was negligible.......

    and

    if they made a contribution, why didn't they have troops on a beach at Normandy? :banghead:
     

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