Current British Army Afghanistan Iraq

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by soren1941, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    are 297 & 298 the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry chaps from Swindon from the Joint-NBC Regt?
    if the vehicles got an open eye that's 1 RTR init?
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    All I know about the following pictures is listed below:

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    Taken in Kuwait on 15th March 2003. I only knew and referred to them as the NBC Regt. 1 RTR. I'm not aware of the Eye Emblem. A quick google search was unsuccessful in finding out anymore infomation. No doubt someone on here will know :D

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    This picture was taken in the same place and date. The chap on the right is Cpl Burke (ID on Body Armour and inside his helmet). They have both been issued old desert uniforms (Pre Combat 95). The front Fuchs VRM is 12KK42 and the serial beneath is VO26.

    Whilst NBC (Now CBRN) alarms were a regular feature of daily routine in Kuwait, pre invasion of Iraq. I would say the picture was staged due to the drills of donning their respirators (IPE) and the cameraman having time to take the picture.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  3. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Drew you have a great data base of photos
    there...maybe in a few years to come we
    maybe seeing some of your work in the
    history books :)

    Thanks for sharing

    Regards
    Kieron
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Kieron,

    They aren't all my own work but most are and the rest come from the unit I was with. There are some already featured in books. Theres one of me in The Army Benevolent Funds book on Iraq.

    I'd like to see 'then and now's' I've always said I'd like to go back in 20 or so years.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  14. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    Are you sure that was an Iraqi vehicle? It looks like an M88 ARV to me, and if you do look closely it appears to have US style camouflage. I wasn't aware that the Iraqis had M88s and if they did I'm sure they would have been painted in their own standard colours.
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Are you sure that was an Iraqi vehicle? It looks like an M88 ARV to me, and if you do look closely it appears to have US style camouflage. I wasn't aware that the Iraqis had M88s and if they did I'm sure they would have been painted in their own standard colours.

    As far as I'm aware it is a Hercules (I'm no AFV expert) but I was told it was Iraqi and it did have a dead Iraqi soldier inside. I haven't a clue if the Iraqi's bought/stole any at some point. I doubt the USMC would ever allow their kit to have so much rust on it either.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  18. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    It certainly does look like an M88 which had 3 versions, the M88 (1961), the M88A1 (1977) and the M88A2 'Hercules' (1991). Again, the colours point to a US vehicle and the only chance of them 'capturing' one would be the first Gulf War. And to be honest, I don't think the Iraqis were doing much 'capturing' in that one. An interesting one.
     
  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I see what you mean about the Cam. Did the USMC use those colours because it was all USMC and no US Army as I recall in the area in the first few days of fighting.

    As for the vehicle unless its one of the earlier versions. I couldn't really say. If this helps and if memory serves me well it was on the approach road to Al Zubayer although the digi details say it was taken on 25th March I think I was at Shaibah by then (Diaries and letters at ex wifes). You can just make out the dead soldier and although bodies were buried pretty quick I'm not sure the USMC would have left one of their own there like that.

    Your thoughts are much appreciated

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  20. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    I wasn't too sure about the colours of the USMC vehicles as I remember all the M1s that I saw were sand but I did see some AAVs in temperate colours. I did however find this pic which is captioned "Using an M88 Recovery Vehicle, Marines from 1st Tank Battalion, Twentynine Palms, California, in the process of loading a Honeywell AGT1500 gas turbine engine back into an M1A1 Abrams at Camp Coyote, Kuwait during Operation ENDURING FREEDOM. Location: TA COYOTE". This would seem to indicate that the USMC did have M88s in temperate cam in theater at that time.

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    As for the reason for Iraqi casualties in a US vehicle, anything I say would be a guess.
     

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