Court Mounted Medals (And Medal related 'show & tell').

My point was that if you don't fulfill the criteria, you are not awarded the medal. If you did three op tours then you'll have three op medals, if you just did the time you may have a lonely Jubilee medal..... which would you prefer? I also pointed out how they improved the selection of recipients. They cast the net a damn sight farther and if you were still not caught in it there's no point crying about it.

The TA provide valued service and many are very committed. How many serve along side the regulars in Iraq, Afghanistan? It's supposed to be 'One Army' nowadays.

You may have thought that my last comment was childish, but I was pointing out that if you set criteria for something and then just loosen it to include those that are 'close', what about those that are then just missed? Shift the criteria a little further? Then what about those that then are just missed? You end up with worthless awards that have no respect. In my opinion, not the way to go.

 

My arguemnet was there shouldn't be a set criteria......If you were serving the Queen at the time of issue then all should get it not a select amount or a certain criteria.

 

Time for a cuppa, lads, and a cool down. This is an old field that's been ploughed and ploughed and isn't yielding a thing.

I took a look about the OBE/MBE question and don't have anything terribly helpful to add to the conversation. I have a suspicion that the reference might simply be to the generic title of the medal, OBE. I've copied the pages out of Dorling on the subject.

As regards the distribution of Jubilee type medals, over here, the decision was made to give it to all the judges of every court level. That caused a bit of conversation when many long time serving soldiers were not so honoured. There is no fair answer and for ever decision there will be those who have another view of it. Ever thus!

 

My arguemnet was there shouldn't be a set criteria......If you were serving the Queen at the time of issue then all should get it not a select amount or a certain criteria.

Well that's not a very good argument is it? Take two examples.

Soldier A, a recruit joins on 5th Feb, discharged on the 7th Feb as Services no longer required, fits your criteria and issued a Jubilee Medal.

Soldier B, serves 22 years and leaves service as by right on the 5th Feb 2002, doesn't fit your criteria, and doesn't get issued the Jubilee Medal.

That seems like a much better idea. Or are you going to set a minimum amount of service? Then you are setting different, but just as arbitrary criteria.

 

Adam,

I wonder if you could ring the medal office to enquire or alternatively go into the nearest regimental museum and compare your grandads with there's?

Cheers
Andy

 

It's my primary medal reference, VP, and often a question solver. I've had it for years and the price inside the fly is $45 so it wasn't cheap. But like any good reference books, they are worth their weight in badges and medals.

Medals get interesting. I've had a few for a while. One of my favourite books is the little signature on the Inter Allied Victory Medal of WWI by Alexander Laslo. I've had it more than 20 years and it has prototypes and some amazing photos of this one medal as it was issued around the world.
It was around $30, but again, well worth the price as a prime reference. It certainly is a singular work.

cheers,
phil

 

VP
I think I have found the solution to the question. This website talks about the OBE being the gold version and the MBE being the silver version. Yours is definitedly the gold, unless these old eyes are deceived. Hence, OBE is right.

Google Image Result for http://www.vvaa.org.au/images/ord-be.gif

Thus endeth the first lesson! [I hope]
phil

 

These are my two medals issued to me as a Police officer.
Long Service and Good conduct medal.
Queens Golden Jubilee Medal.

Regards
Tom

 

Tom

Exactly the same medals, as the ones my Friend was wearing in the Remembrance Sunday photos you saw.

Thanks - Robert

 

Robert,
Thanks. Also thanks for the intrepretation on your Dutch sentence. I guessed correct for the Maar niet aleen, but could not think what Eenzaam meant.

Regards
Tom

 

Hi Tom

I thought that might stump a few people. It was the title of her Autobiography and rather apt I think in relation to her country's plight and others under occupation during WW2.

Cheers - Robert

 

Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist this

I can confirm that the CBE (Commander of the British Empire) is in Gold and the MBE (Member of the British Empire) is in silver simply because my nephew Dr.Michael Goldstein, Chancellor of Coventry University 1983-2005 has the former and my sister, Esther Rosen has the latter.

While I personally have the NBE (Not bloody entitled !)

Cheers

Ron

ps
The right hand pic shows my nephew in the top hat.
The left hand one shows my sister and her family

 

A distinguished family indeed.

 

Adam
Shameless family plug there Ron, quite shameless!
(I've retitled the thread slightly to reflect it's direction )
Adam

You are, as always, quite correct, "completely shameless" ........
But..................
I unashamedly belong to the Mike Goldstein fan club and maintain that if ever a role model was called for to demonstrate how a youngster can triumph over adversity then Mike is your man.
I repeat a previous posting I made on the forum:
My nephew, Mike Goldstein CBE and former Vice Chancellor of Coventry University, has also written, movingly, about the loss of his father Sgt.Jack Goldstein in a bombing raid over Nuremberg in March' 45.
BBC - WW2 People's War - The night my father was killed in action

Further stories contributed to the BBC Archives by Mike as "mg1939"

My only memory of my father BBC - WW2 People's War - My only memory of my father

The traumas of evacuation BBC - WW2 People's War - The traumas of evacuation

The telegram: "Missing...." BBC - WW2 People's War - The telegram: "Missing...."

Our first trip to the war grave cemetery in Durnbach, Germany BBC - WW2 People's War - Our first trip to the war grave cemetery in Durnbach, Germany

The night my father was killed in action BBC - WW2 People's War - The night my father was killed in action

A wartime letter from my father BBC - WW2 People's War - A wartime letter from my father

Two fatherless children BBC - WW2 People's War - Two fatherless children

Montefiore House School BBC - WW2 People's War - Montefiore House School

And thanks to Ramacal too.

Ron

 

Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist this

I can confirm that the CBE (Commander of the British Empire) is in Gold and the MBE (Member of the British Empire) is in silver simply because my nephew Dr.Michael Goldstein, Chancellor of Coventry University 1983-2005 has the former and my sister, Esther Rosen has the latter.

While I personally have the NBE (Not bloody entitled !)

Cheers

Ron
Congratulations to the esteemed Goldsteins. A fairly unique occurance I'd say!

 

Congratulations to the esteemed Goldsteins. A fairly unique occurance I'd say!

GH, don't you think they are really "Gold and Silver" Steins?

 

I know those articles well Ron.
Come on then, somebody out there's got an Order of the Garter, VC, GC or something, tucked away in a family closet.
We now have a Civil CBE, any advances up the order of precedence on that?

Not my own VC, but I was at the Canadian War Museum with a couple of friends as they presented their GrandFather's VC to the museum a few years back. William Merrifield, VC, MM [and they also gave him a Jubilee for good measure, as you will note.]