Conscientious Objectors

Discussion in 'The Holocaust' started by Kerakae, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. Kerakae

    Kerakae Junior Member

    Hi there,

    I'm writing a short novel about a fictional concentration camp for my university dissertation—creative writing—about the struggles between a commandant and a conscientious objector who somehow manages to persuade a battalion to desert. I wondered if anybody knew of a derogatory word the Nazis would use for a conscientious objector. One of the characters is telling the story of the objector, and at the moment I've got him calling a 'conchie', which just seems a bit too British.

    Cheers

    Kerakae
     
  2. wowtank

    wowtank Very Senior Member

    Did they have conscientious objectors in Nazi Germany?
     
  3. hoolig

    hoolig Member WW2 Veteran

    Did they have conscientious objectors in Nazi Germany?

    I should imagine not live ones
     
  4. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Perhaps you can invent your own from the German: "Kriegsdienstverweigerer"
     
  5. idler

    idler GeneralList

    It's only Wiki but it says conscription resisters (not necessarily conscientious objectors) were classified as 'workshy' - arbeitsscheu.
     
  6. Pete Keane

    Pete Keane Senior Member

    I'm workshy, didnt know I could tell my boss I was a conscientous objector.

    Will try it Monday morning, let you know how I get on....
     
  7. wowtank

    wowtank Very Senior Member

    "persuade a battalion to desert" I hope not to the east if you want to be taken as credible.
     
  8. Drayton

    Drayton Senior Member

    I'm writing a short novel about a fictional concentration camp for my university dissertation—creative writing—about the struggles between a commandant and a conscientious objector who somehow manages to persuade a battalion to desert. I wondered if anybody knew of a derogatory word the Nazis would use for a conscientious objector. One of the characters is telling the story of the objector, and at the moment I've got him calling a 'conchie', which just seems a bit too British.



    Some clarification is needed here. Are you positing a conscientious objector to conscription to the German Army? If so, why and how is he in a concentration camp?' Concentration camps were a means of indefinite detention for a variety of "undesirables" - left-wing politicos, gays, Jews, gypsies etc. Refusing conscription was a civil or military capital offence, resulting in summary trial by a 'People's Court' or court-martial, followed by execution, initially by firing squad, later by beheading (guillotine). The classic case was Franz Jaegerstaetter, beheaded in Brandenburg Prison in Berlin on 9 August 1943, but there were more than 250 others, beginning with August Dickmann, shot on 15 September 1939.

    So, where does the character in your story fit into this scenario, and what was the battalion that he 'persuaded' and how did he make contact in order to the persuading?
     
  9. Groundhugger

    Groundhugger Senior Member

    The only Battalion that he would possibly be in contact with would be a 'penal Battalion' I would think , but even then he would have been probably turned in by one of prisoners for 'brownie points'
     

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