Comparison table AT device armour pen

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Gooseman, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. Gooseman

    Gooseman Senior Member

    I have searched the forum for an earlier thread on this topic (armour penetration comparison of AT weapons), but in vain. That might be my fault, but that is the reason why I ask the question whether anyone has a reliable comparison table of armour penetration achievements from regular anti-tank guns.

    I am aware that armour penetration figures are quite arbitrary, mainly due to the variables like the angle of the target, quality of ammo and not the least the quality of the impact steels. Yet an internet sweep gives such an unreliable result on standard AT guns that I had hoped for anybody that can provide me with some sort of verified table or listing. Sure some of the belligerents must have studied these weapon performances prior to weapon procurement, or am I wrong?

    Weapons that do interest me the most are:

    - PAK 36 (3,7 cm)
    - Bofors (3,7 cm)
    - Hotchkiss SA 34 and SA 35 (2,5 cm)
    - Böhler (4,7 cm)
    - French Model 1937 (4,7 cm)
     
  2. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    I always look for training manuals, I start with a specific request and then open the question up, eg; Grenade 36, whereas the more open grenades will reward you with more info.



    FINNISH ARMY 1918 - 1945: ANTITANK GUNS PART 1


    Part 2 also, a list of guns tested by the Finnish army. test details given.
    Calibre:

    37 mm x 249 R

    Length:

    350 cm

    Barrel length:

    166 cm aka L/45

    Weight in action:

    330 kg / 450 kg (depending source)

    Rate of fire:

    12 - 15/min

    Muzzle velocity:

    500 - 1030 m/sec

    Magazine:

    None

    Traverse:

    60 degrees

    Elevation:

    - 8 degrees, + 25 degrees

    Max. range:

    6800 m (indirect fire)

    Width:

    160 cm

    Height:

    120 cm

    Country of origin:

    Germany

    Ammunition types:

    APHE (Pzgr.) 680 g projectile 760 m/sec



    (APCR (Pzgr.40) 354 g projectile 1030 m/sec - not in Finnish use)



    HE 690 g projectile 710 m/sec
    Stielgranade 41 HEAT bomb 8500 g 110 m/sec


    Armour Penetration:
    - "Panzerabwerhgeschütze etc":
    Pzgr.39 AP round (745 m/sec):
    distance
    hitting angle
    penetration
    100 m
    60 degrees
    34 mm
    500 m
    90 degrees
    35 mm
    600 m
    60 degrees
    27 mm
     
  3. Gooseman

    Gooseman Senior Member

    Thx Will. Excellent overview and quite substantiated test results (e.g.: V0, year, angle). Since these tests were all performed by the F. army I presume that they calibrated the results by applying similar impact materials.
     
  4. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  5. Gooseman

    Gooseman Senior Member

    Thnx again Wills
     
  6. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    Old thread, I know but this site with penetration info looks like it is sliding off the net.
     
  7. rick wedlock

    rick wedlock Member

  8. Gooseman

    Gooseman Senior Member

  9. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

  10. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    Try this link:

    All Gun Penetration Data

    Jolly handy! Never came across that when I was collecting data. I know I had to do some extrapolating for guns I couldn't find any data for, will be interesting to see if my 'happy mediums' were near the mark
     
  11. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Senior Member

    Good source, TTH!
     

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