Cold War Songs?: Hank Williams Jnr et al.

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  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  2. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    One from the other side of the aisle. Certainly not the most exciting poetry, but it sold a lot of records.

    Ballad of the Green Beret
    by Staff Sergeant Barry Sadler and Robin Moore, copyright 1966

    Fighting soldiers from the sky
    Fearless men who jump and die
    Men who mean just what they say
    The brave men of the Green Beret

    Silver wings upon their chest
    These are men, America's best
    One hundred men will test today
    But only three win the Green Beret

    Trained to live off nature's land
    Trained in combat, hand-to-hand
    Men who fight by night and day
    Courage peak from the Green Berets

    Silver wings upon their chest
    These are men, America's best
    One hundred men will test today
    But only three win the Green Beret

    Back at home a young wife waits
    Her Green Beret has met his fate
    He has died for those oppressed
    Leaving her his last request

    Put silver wings on my son's chest
    Make him one of America's best
    He'll be a man they'll test one day
    Have him win the Green Beret.
     
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  3. Jim Clay

    Jim Clay Member

    Vietnam produced a lot of songs reflecting on the experience of black Americans. Here's Joe Tex's 'I Believe I'm Gonna Make It':

    When I got your letter, baby,
    I was in a foxhole on my knees (Oh yes I was)
    And your letter brought me so much treat
    I raised up and got me two more enemy (Oh yes I did)

    That's why I believe I'm gonna make it
    Tell everybody back home that I believe I'm gonna make it
    And baby I'll be home before you can say 'Jackie Robinson'.

    Sometimes I wonder if you really love me
    Then I think of something sweet you once said to me
    And the thought makes me feel so good inside
    I raise up and get me two more enemy

    Listen, baby, oh baby, I wished 1000 times
    That we'd gotten married before I left home for Vietnam
    But then when I see so many of my buddies gettin' shot down all around me
    Makes me kinda glad that we waited
    'Cos I don't wanna leave you at home bein' a widow (no)
    Now I know you understand, baby.

    Listen, darlin', they promised me a furlough on the 15th of next month
    And I want you to say a prayer tonight that my furlough'll come thro'
    So I can come home to be with you - and tomorrow (oh, tomorrow)
    Go by and tell my mum and daddy that I love 'em
    And they don't have to worry 'bout me

    'Cos I believe I'm gonna make it
    And baby I'll be home
    Before you can say 'Batman and Robin' (yeah...)

    That one's on the CD 'A Soldier's Sad Story - Vietnam Through The Eyes of Black America 1966-73'. Some other titles on the album:

    Greetings (This is Uncle Sam) - The Monitors
    Going to Vietnam - Big Amos
    Christmas in Vietnam - Johnny & Jon
    I Can't Write Left Handed - Bill Withers
    Stop The War Now - Edwin Starr
    Bring The Boys Home - Freda Payne
    A Letter From Vietnam - Emmanuel Lasky
    P.O.W. - M.I.A. - The Whispers
     
  4. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    "Ballad of the Green Beret
    by Staff Sergeant Barry Sadler and Robin Moore, copyright 1966 "
    Wow,I love that tune jeff,I used to own it on a 7inch single....wasnt to keen on the B side though...My name is william calley Im a soldier of this land......to the tune of My eyes have seen the glory..
     
  5. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    I remember that song, but just barely. Was that the original B-side of the Ballad of Green Berets?
     
  6. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    I dont think so,It may have been a european re pressing from the early 1970s.
     
  7. Jim Clay

    Jim Clay Member

    Billboard Top Pop Singles lists the original 1966 B-side as 'A Letter From Vietnam':

    Oh lord I'm tired and sad
    and I want you oh so bad
    I've been away so very long
    now I want to go home.
    So remember that I love you
    that, my dear is true
    just say a prayer for your man."
    This letter's post-marked 'Vietnam'
    "Last night we had a fire fight
    machine guns firing tracers through the night
    and as we fought,
    my thoughts, they turned to you
    and I knew, somehow, darling I'll come thrgouh
    I've fought in many places
    and I've seen war's thousand faces
    but after this, my wars are through
    and I'll-I'll come home to you
    Even thought I'm far away
    I'll think of you each day
    I'll come home when I can"
    This letter's post-marked 'Vietnam'

    'The Battle Hymn of William Calley' was a 1971 country hit by C Company featuring Terry Nelson. Did Sadler also record this?
     
  8. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    I may be getting a little confuzzed in my dotage,your 30s do that Im told :) ,I know I owned both tracks on single and also that both have long since disapeared during one or another house move :( ( well,the frown for green berrets,the other was purely oddity value)
    OMG,Ive just read the lyrics,thats holocaust denial level cr*p wrapped up in the stars and bars.......
     
  9. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    wrapped up in the stars and bars.......


    I don't understand this. Stars & Bars must have a different meaning there than it does here.
    Here in the US, the Stars and Bars is the first flag of the Confederate States of America.

    This one.
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  10. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I think he might mean the Stars and Stripes!!!
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I always thought the stars & bars and stars & strips were the same thing until I was corrcted here.

    OMG,Ive just read the lyrics,thats holocaust denial level cr*p wrapped up in the stars and bars.......

    Which song CW? Post it here as I'm confused on which one you mean.

    PS. CW are you having trouble wrapping things in quotes?
    Highlight the text you want to quote then click this button.

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  12. Jim Clay

    Jim Clay Member

    Which song CW? Post it here as I'm confused on which one you mean.

    This is the one we were talking about, Owen. Is that the one you meant, CW?

    "Battle Hymn of William Calley" (C Company feat. Terry Nelson)

    Once upon a time there was a little boy who wanted to grow up
    And be a soldier and serve his country in whatever way he could
    He would parade around the house with a sauce pan on his head
    For a helmet, a wooden sword in one hand and the American flag in the other
    As he grew up, he put away the things of a child but he never let go of the flag

    My name is William Calley, I'm a soldier of this land
    I've tried to do my duty and to gain the upper hand
    But they've made me out a villain they have stamped me with a brand
    As we go marching on

    I'm just another soldier from the shores of U.S.A.
    Forgotten on a battle field then thousand miles away
    While life goes on as usual from New York to Santa Fe
    As we go marching on

    I've seen my buddies ambushed on the left and on the right
    And their youthful bodies riddled by the bullets of the night
    Where all the rules are broken and the only law is might
    As we go marching on

    While we're fighting in the jungles they were marching in the street
    While we're dying in the rice fields they were helping our defeat
    While we're facing V.C. bullets they were sounding a retreat
    As we go marching on

    With our sweat we took the bunkers, with our tears we took the plain
    With our blood we took the mountains and they gave it back again
    Still all of us are soldiers, we're too busy to complain
    As we go marching on

    When I reach my final campground in that land beyond the sun
    And the great commander asks me, "Did you fight or did you run?"
    I'll stand both straight and tall stripped of medals, rank and gun
    And this is what I'll say:

    Sir, I followed all my orders and I did the best I could
    It's hard to judge the enemy and hard to tell the good
    Yet there's not a man among us would not have understood

    We took the jungle village exactly like they said
    We responded to their rifle fire with everything we had
    And when the smoke had cleared away a hundred souls lay dead

    Sir, the soldier that's alive is the only once can fight
    There's no other way to wage a war when the only one in sight
    That you're sure is not a VC is your buddy on your right

    When all the wars are over and the battle's finally won
    Count me only as a soldier who never left his gun
    With the right to serve my country as the only prize I've won
    As we go marching on
    Glory, glory hallelujah glory, glory hallelujah


    Jim
     
  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I've got a bit of a thing for protest songs, whether I agree with the sentiment or not. I think I like the earnest/hopeful naivete sometimes expressed. Here's a favourite from the contrary flower-power side of the fence, normally heard in the Donovan version:

    Universal Soldier,

    He's five feet two and he's six feet four
    He fights with missiles and with spears
    He's all of 31 and he's only 17
    He's been a soldier for a thousand years

    He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an atheist, a Jain,
    a Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew
    and he knows he shouldn't kill
    and he knows he always will
    kill you for me my friend and me for you

    And he's fighting for Canada,
    he's fighting for France,
    he's fighting for the USA,
    and he's fighting for the Russians
    and he's fighting for Japan,
    and he thinks we'll put an end to war this way

    And he's fighting for Democracy
    and fighting for the Reds
    He says it's for the peace of all
    He's the one who must decide
    who's to live and who's to die
    and he never sees the writing on the walls

    But without him how would Hitler have
    condemned him at Dachau
    Without him Caesar would have stood alone
    He's the one who gives his body
    as a weapon to a war
    and without him all this killing can't go on

    He's the universal soldier and he
    really is to blame
    His orders come from far away no more
    They come from him, and you, and me
    and brothers can't you see
    this is not the way we put an end to war.
     
  14. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Heres the lyrics from a protest song of the 60's

    Eve Of Destruction By Barry McGuire, 1965


    The eastern world it tis explodin',
    violence flarin', bullets loadin',
    you're old enough to kill but not for votin',
    you don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin',
    and even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
    but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
    Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
    Can't you see the fear that I'm feeling today?
    If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
    There'll be noone to save with the world in a grave,
    take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
    but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
    Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
    I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
    I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
    handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
    and marches alone can't bring integration,
    when human respect is disintegratin',
    this whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
    and you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
    Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
    Tehn take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
    Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
    but when your eturn, it's the same old place,
    the poundin' of the drums, th pride and disgrace,
    you can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
    hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace,
    and you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
     
  15. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    oops,did I say stars and bars?Sorry,my bad,I did mean of course the stars and stripes :(
    anyway,I think my meaning was clear,what they did on that day is little short of what the ss did in countless eastern european villages in the war,hiding it in a patriotic song doesnt make it anyless of a crime. Saying that "they did their duty" or were only following orders is quite,imo,chilling.
     
  16. Franek

    Franek WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Lets not forget Lily Marlene. It was a German song adopted by the Allies.Today it is sung in many different languages

    Marlene Dietrich - Lili Marlene Lyrics

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    Underneath the lantern by the barrack gate
    Darling I remember the way you used to wait
    Twas there that you whispered tenderly
    That you loved me
    You'd always be
    My Lili of the lamplight
    My own Lili Marlene

    Time would come for roll call
    Time for us to part
    Darling I'd caress you and press you to my heart
    And there 'neath that far off lantern light
    I'd hold you tight
    We'd kiss good-night
    My Lili of the lamplight
    My own Lili Marlene

    Orders came for sailing somewhere over there
    All confined to barracks was more than I could bear
    I knew you were waiting in the street
    I heard your feet
    But could not meet
    My Lili of the lamplight
    My own Lili Marlene

    Resting in a billet just behind the line
    Even tho' we're parted your lips are close to mine
    You wait where that lantern softly gleams
    Your sweet face seems to haunt my dreams
    My Lili of the lamplight
    My own Lili Marlene

    When we are marching in the mud and cold,
    And when my pack seems more than I can hold
    My love for you renews my might
    I'm warm again
    My pack is light
    It's you Lili Marlene
    It's you Lili Marlene
     

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