Civilian death in Malaya, 1942

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  1. daggers

    daggers Member

    The War Graves Commission have a record of the burial of Hugh Young, civilian, aged 50, Malaya, 2nd June 1942. On enquiry for more information they gave me a grave number: 11634 at Bidadari Christian Cemetery, Singapore, but have no other details.
    I find that this cemetery was closed in 1972 and cleared between 2001 and 2006.
    I have tried the website of BACSA without success.

    I would like to know what records might exist in Singapore, while knowing what the war situation was at that time. I have a family member of that name and age who is unaccounted for, and this is a forlorn hope of linking the two. In 1940 he wrote to the War Office from HMS Peterel to ask for copies of his army discharge papers which had been lost while he was serving in the Merchant Navy, between wars. He described himself as 'Engineer P.O.' but I have been advised that he might have been serving in some civilian capacity.
    I have read about the sinking of the gunboat Peterel in 1941 off Shanghai and doubt if the two are connected but would welcome any thoughts.

    Daggers.
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Just for info

    UK, WWII Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945
    Name: Hugh Young
    Estimated birth year: abt 1892
    Death Date: 2 Jun 1942
    Death Place: Malaya
    Age at Death: 50
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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    You could also download this - if it is the right person

    Medal Card of Young, Hugh Place of Birth: Glasgow Date of Birth: 1892 | The National Archives
    Reference: BT 351/1/156394
    Description:
    Medal Card of Young, Hugh
    Place of Birth: Glasgow
    Date of Birth: 1892
    Date: [1914-1925]
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Language: English
    Creator:
    Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen, 1872-1992
    Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

    TD

    Possibly him aged 9 in 1901 Scotland Census
    1901 Scotland Census
    Name: Hugh Young
    Age: 9
    Estimated birth year: abt 1892
    Relationship: Son
    Father's name: Hugh Young
    Mother's name: Agnes Young
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire
    Registration Number: 573/1
    Registration district: Paisley
    Civil Parish: Paisley
    County: Renfrewshire
    Address: 37 Gt Hamilton Street
    Occupation: Scholar
    ED: 13
    Household schedule number: 253
    LINE: 5
    Roll: CSSCT1901_204
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Hugh Young 38
    Agnes Young 42
    David Young 13
    Christina C Young 11
    Hugh Young 9
    Agnes Young 8
    Mary Young 4
    Martha Young 8 Mo
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Maybe you need a copy of this book
    Three of the crew of HMS Peterel were onshore during the Japanese attack; two were captured but the third (PO Telegraphist James Cuming) remained at large in Shanghai for the duration of the war, working for a Sino-American spy ring. The Lonely Battle, an account of Cuming's tale, was written by Desmond Wettern in 1960.

    HMS Peterel (1927) - Wikipedia

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  6. daggers

    daggers Member

    Thanks for your interest.
    Hugh Young was at sea before and after WW1 and in the army in that war. No marriage traced and all his generation have gone. His army records include the 1940 letter asking for his discharge documents and it appears to be written from HMS Peterel but with no locality given.
    He was born in 1892 and no matching death record has turned up in UK.
    Not much else known apart from a few bits of MN service.
    Daggers
     
  7. daggers

    daggers Member

    Just caught the later posts. I have the medal card but the Census is for the wrong family. He was in Liverpool in 1901.
    I’ll look for that book.
    Thanks again
     
  8. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    You may have Googled this but it might indicate why he was buried at Bidadari Bidadari Cemetery - Wikipedia
    During World War II the land was requisitioned by the British army and then used by the Singapore Volunteer Field Ambulance Corps.
     
  9. daggers

    daggers Member

    Thanks for the link. Sorry for late reply which I have just seen. I will follow it up.
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