Civilian Casualty not what it seems...

Discussion in 'War Grave Photographs' started by Owen, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    My lad spotted this grave in Highworth Cemtery today.
    At first looks like a civilian not listed on CWGC.
    All is not as it seems, he is in fact a Naval casulaty, on Memorial to the Missing.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    <TABLE class=datatable cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="97%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR id=tr_name><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Name:</TH><TD id=td_name>NEWLYN, ALEXANDER ALBERT EDWARD J.</TD></TR><TR id=tr_initials><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Initials:</TH><TD id=td_initials>A A E J</TD></TR><TR id=tr_nationality><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Nationality:</TH><TD id=td_nationality>United Kingdom</TD></TR><TR id=tr_rank><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Rank:</TH><TD id=td_rank>Stoker 1st Class</TD></TR><TR id=tr_regiment><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Regiment/Service:</TH><TD id=td_regiment>Royal Navy</TD></TR><TR id=tr_unittext><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Unit Text:</TH><TD id=td_unittext>H.M.S. Glorious</TD></TR><!-- <tr> <td vAlign="top" align="left" width="30%">Force:</td> <td id="td_force"></td> </tr>--><TR id=tr_age><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Age:</TH><TD id=td_age>24</TD></TR><TR id=tr_death><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Date of Death:</TH><TD id=td_death>08/06/1940</TD></TR><TR id=tr_service><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Service No:</TH><TD id=td_service>D/KX 90216</TD></TR><TR id=tr_information><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Additional information:</TH><TD id=td_information>Son of William Harry and Elizabeth Newlyn.</TD></TR><TR id=tr_type><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Casualty Type:</TH><TD id=td_type>Commonwealth War Dead</TD></TR><TR id=tr_grave><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Grave/Memorial Reference:</TH><TD id=td_grave>Panel 41, Column 2.</TD></TR><TR id=tr_cemetery><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Memorial:</TH><TD id=td_cemetery>PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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  2. AndyBaldEagle

    AndyBaldEagle Very Senior Member

    Owen
    I have found some like that recently at Barkingside. I think it might be the family grave and they have added his name to remember him.
    When I can find where I put them I will post some!

    Andy
     
  3. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Stoker Newlyn was lost when the carrier HMS Glorious was sunk by the Scharnhorst in the North Sea during the withdrawal of British forces from Norway.The loss of this carrier also involved RAF losses in men and aircraft that could be ill afforded at this critical period in the war.

    A lesson learnt by the British that they would never allow the capital ships of the Kreigsmarine to gain access to the North Sea and North Atlantic.It was largely successful for none, apart from the Bismark got lose to cause the British much trouble and its only success was the breakout into the North Atlantic which resulted in the dramatic loss of the Hood and its own end.
     
  4. Mark Hone

    Mark Hone Senior Member

    I have come across quite a few like this over the years. One near my grandparents' grave in Yardley Cemetery, Birmingham commemorates a young man who went missing at the battle of the Somme and is on the Thiepval Memorial. In a local churchyard in Bury a Lancashire Fusilier who died at Gallipoli, and is commemorated on the Helles Memorial, is recorded alongside his parents. The memorial used to have his death plaque attached until it was removed a few years ago, presumably by thieves. However you also get cases where the person is actually buried there but the family declined a CWGC headstone and the name is simply recorded on the family memorial. The CWGC still records the grave reference etc normally, which caused me some confusion on the first occasion I went looking for one of these, as I was trying to spot a standard CWGC headstone. These are obviously men who died at home, in hospital, training accidents etc. I've never actually seen one involving an RAF crewman who died in the UK-they always seem to have separate CWGC headstones. There is also an example at Bury Cemetery of a CWGC headstone directly in front and inside the little perimeter of a family plot like the one in the photograph.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  6. Mark Hone

    Mark Hone Senior Member

    This is the example at Bury Cemetery, admittedly not Second World War.
     

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