I honestly think there's now something of a problem with the term though Gibbo. I, like you, saw it as an entirely reasonable historical term until realising recently just how varied it's interpretation had become. It now does seem to simply mean 'lying' to many, it's a shame I reckon but mybe also a good reason for discarding it completely and using a less muddied terminology?
I see the reason for the confusion, Ron, Churchill occupied the empty seat in the foreground, and he stood up to take the picture""http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachments/general/7881d1202196603t-churchill-myth-churchill-ron-jpg
78.3% of statistics are made up on the spot, and there's an 93.7% chance of that article being completely false also. Fact. Also, those surveyed were probably the audience of the jeremy kyle show, which is of course a perfect cross section of our country's population
If Churchill is a myth - then what about his cigar butt, that I bought on eBay in 1944, for £2000, - don't tell me it's a FAKE!! Oh! No!!! I'll have to get him exhumed from the grave I visited at Bladen for a DNA check. Otherwise, anybody got a light?;(;(;(
To digress slightly from Churchill as a myth, what about the original moon landings as a myth ? Last Saturday photos were published in the Saturday Times which claimed to show debris left on the moon after the Apollo II mission. Will this now spark off a new conspiracy theory ? This new conspiracy theory will have to claim that the unmanned satellite shots taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter were never actually taken and that the photos shown are just part of another FBI conspiracy to cover up the original one. Dear Lord, give me strength !!!!!!! Ron
Flat Earthists/Moon landing conspiracy theorists make me angry. Don't forget of course about USSRs Luna 16 mission which took soil samples from the moon...that was all a hoax too, just to support USAs hoaxed landings. And we all know how buddy-buddy USSR and USA were at the time.
Moon dust? Pah, beginner's stuff! I OWN one square mile of the Moon! Title deeds and mineral rights. but I can't ever see myself moving there. It's a bit boring - no atmosphere.
Sorry to be boring - despite the picture above - but I found this on the BBC which looks at what appears to be revisionism as a policy BBC NEWS | Europe | Russia acts against 'false' history Jim
Yes, revisionism has it's usefulness. There is no denying that recent Russian, etc., history seen from the West has been somewhat one-sided. Thinking of it, recent and not so recent.
The Russians have been preparing for the anniversary of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact for some time now Russian Defence Ministry has accessed Poland of being responsible for World War II in an article published on its official web site. The article was written by Colonel Sergey Kovalov from the Institute of War History at the Russian Defence Ministry and published in a War Encyclopedia under the title “History – against lies and falsification”. “Everyone who studies the history of WW II without prejudice knows that the war started because Poland refused to satisfy German claims. However, not everyone knows what exactly Adolf Hitler wanted from Poland. His claims were rather moderate: to incorporate the Free City of Danzig (currently Gdansk) into the Third Reich and to let Germans build exterritorial motorway and a railway [through Poland] which would join East Prussia with the rest of German territory,” writes the Russian historian. In his opinion, “it is hard to regard these claims as unjustified”. “Poland aimed at becoming a regional super power and by no means wanted to play the role of a younger partner to Germany. That is why on 26 March 1939 it finally rejected German demands,” argues Kovalov. Russia knows better The Russian historian also justifies the attack of the USSR on Poland on 17 September 1939. He claims that Josef Stalin had no choice but to sign a non-aggression pact with Hitler in order to postpone, at least in the short term, war with Germany. The Russian daily Wriemia Nowostiej has criticized the article published by the Defence Ministry, saying that “the war against falsification of history ‘to the detriment of Russia’, proclaimed by the highest state authorities, is grotesque.” The daily ironically predicts that “soon Adolf Hitler will turn out to be an effective manager and East European countries, smashed by Soviet and Nazi ‘effective management’, will be found guilty for getting in their way,” writes Wriemia Nowostiej. In May, the President of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, created the Committee for the Counteraction against Attempts to Falsify History to the Detriment of Russia. The committee consists of Russian politicians, historians, officials and secret service agents and its goal is to investigate ‘distortions of the historical record’ caused by Polish, Ukrainian, Latvian and Estonian historians. The Russian Defence Ministry’s deputy spokesman Aleksandr Petrunin refused to give thenews.pl a commentary on Kovalov’s article. Russia: Poland responsible for WW II - TheNews.pl :: News from Poland A nice whitewashing....or should that be Red-washing? Which explains why it was therefore okay first to be allied with the Germans against the villainous Poles...
“Everyone who studies the history of WW II without prejudice knows that the war started because Poland refused to satisfy German claims. However, not everyone knows what exactly Adolf Hitler wanted from Poland. His claims were rather moderate: to incorporate the Free City of Danzig (currently Gdansk) into the Third Reich and to let Germans build exterritorial motorway and a railway [through Poland] which would join East Prussia with the rest of German territory,” writes the Russian historian. In his opinion, “it is hard to regard these claims as unjustified”. It takes some bloody nerve! I certainly don't sympathise with the chauvinistic and fascsit Poland prewar, but quite frankly the Germans were pointing a gun at Poland and it's Poland fault to start a war for not yielding to Hitler's blackmail? "His claims were rather moderate". Yeah, also moderate were the USSR claims on Finnish territory, a pity the bloody peasants provoked a war by not yielding to us. Disgusting. Short memory and disgusting!
