Chindits

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  1. ALIBABA

    ALIBABA Member

    I wondered if someone has or can find information on a Peter Church who was in the 36th division of the Chindits. I thought he married a Verity Iles born in India & married in Kohima on 19/12/1944. The only match I can find is a Elizabeth Verity Iles born in India & married in India in 1944 but according to Wikitree married Peter Francis Henry Reeve born 1921 Dublin. I believe Peter Church & Verity Iles married in the Chapel, 35th milestone on Imphal Road & Peter's headquarters wasDharamsala, I forgot to mention that Verity was a V.A.D. nurse.
    Also, I am seeking information on Harry (sorry no surname) an ex-tea planter who became a ghurka & in charge of I.S.L.U who married a V.A.D. nurse called Dorothy in Assam between 1944 & 1946. Harry had a friend called Findlayson & they lived near Tinsukia.
    I realise that these details are very sketchy, but any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    From Ancestry

    Timothy Reeve in the England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
    Name: Timothy Reeve
    Birth Date: 3 Oct 1945
    Birth Place: Kangra, NW Punjab, India
    Father's name: P F H Reeve
    Mother's name: Verity Iles
    31031_A100147-02284.jpg

    There is also 1 public tree:
    Elizabeth Verity Iles

    Birth: 5 Jul 1921
    Death: Jan 1984 - Winchester, Hampshire, England

    and 2 private trees:
    Elizabeth Verity Iles
    Birth: 1921 - India
    one of the trees is called Iles family tree and has 5 attached records

    TD
     
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  3. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Have found quite a bit on Elizabeth V Iles, but, as yet, no birth or marriage details, will keep looking.

    You may find the following immigration records of interest as it links her with India and her possible family.

    ‘City of Exeter’ arrived London from Calcutta on 5 May 1923, aboard were
    Iles Alfred G, age 38, Bank agent
    Iles Vera H, age 26
    Iles Elizabeth V, age 1 ¾
    Proposed UK address, Hampton Cottage, Fairford, Gloucs
    Country of last permanent residence, India
    Country of proposed permanent residence, England
    Note: 1st class passengers

    ‘Viceroy of India’ arrived London from Bombay (via ports) on 11 March 1932, passengers who embarked at Monaco were:
    Iles Vera, age 35, occupation house duties
    Iles Elizabeth, age 9,
    Iles Jennifer, age 2 ½,
    Proposed UK address, Granby Court Hotel, 88 Queens Gate, London SW7
    Country of last permanent residence, England
    Country of proposed permanent residence, England
    Note: 2nd class passengers

    ‘Maloja’ left London 23 Sep 1932 for Brisbane
    Iles Alfred, age 47, bank official
    Iles Vera, age 35,
    Iles Jennifer age 3
    Last address in UK, Merrow, Grange Hotel, Guildord
    Country of proposed permanent residence, India

    ‘Otranto’ arrived Plymouth from Brisdane 31 July 1935, passengers who embarked at Palma
    Iles Mr AG, age 50, Banker
    Iles Mrs VH, 38
    Iles Miss EV, 14
    Iles Miss JA, 6
    Proposed UK address Mr AG was ‘Imp Bnk India’, presumably who he worked for, rest of family 25 Old Broad ST, London
    Country of last permanent residence, India
    Country of proposed permanent residence, England

    Also record for Mr AG Iles leaving London for Calcutta 11 Dec 1909, no family members.

    In the 1939 Register (census carried out 29 September 1939):

    38, Queens Gate, Kensington
    Iles Vera H, female, married, dob 29 Oct 1896, occupation Private means

    Clayton Castle, Cuckfield, Sussex
    Iles Alfred G, male married, dob 22 Feb 1885, stockbroker & retired bank official
    Iles Elizabeth V, female, single, dob 5 July 1921

    As you may have realised they are plenty around here who love a genealogical challenge so this may help to prove or disprove if this is the person you are seeking.
     
  4. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    OK, there was an Elizabeth Verity Iles born and baptised in 1921 in Secunderabad, Madras. Unfortunately father and or mother not named. Information from archive reference N-2-130, British India Office births & Baptisms.

    Nothing found for just Verity, but that doesn’t mean anything.

    In 1901 census looks like Alfred G Iles (16) was a boarder living Llanelly, Wales, occupation given as bank clerk and he was born Fairford, Gloucestershire.

    The birth register suggests it may have been Alfred Gordon. He died 6 April 1952 at St Mary Abbotts Hospital with administration being granted to his widow Vera Harding Iles. His last address was Dawliffe Hall, 2 Chelsea Embankment.

    Can’t find anything for Elizabeth Verity Church or Verity Church.

    However, have found:

    First name(s) Vera Harding
    Last name Iles
    Initials V H
    Rank VAD
    Other rank Clerk
    Certificate number 15747
    Department Voluntary Aid Detachment
    Passport number WAR OFFICE
    Destination France
    Record set British Red Cross Register of Overseas Volunteers 1914-1918
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Subcategory Regimental & service records
    Collections from Great Britain

    You mentioned the nursing connection.
     
  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Expanding on the ‘Reeve’ name that you mentioned and that TD’s found some detail on:

    London, England Death notices from the Times, 1982 – 1988
    Name: Verity Reeve
    Death date: 25 Dec 1983
    Published date: 29 Dec 1983
    Spouse: Lt C Peter Reeve

    There is a Probate record
    Reeve, Elizabeth Verity of Morleys Ampfield Romsey Hants died 25 Dec 1983 Administration Winchester 24 Feb 1984.
    Death Register states she was born 5 Jul 1921.

    Royal Artillery Offices deaths
    Lt Col Peter Francis Henry Reeve
    Born 1921
    Age 89
    Death 5 May 2010
    Winchester

    Death Register states he was born 3 Feb 1921, Probate granted 21 July 2010 Winchester.

    I appreciate that I am drifting a long way from your original search for Peter Church, so perhaps you could expand a little on what you know about him? Why do you think he married Verity Iles, you give a very precise location and date?

    The only military fact I can find for a Peter Church is a Royal Artillery attestation for 1937, service No. 875599.
    There are some notes:
    ‘CD/AA’
    ‘60AA’
    ‘To RAC 28/11/48’
    ‘28/11/48 Re-enlist 22241745’
     
  6. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Alibaba, I had a look through all my files, but have not come across Peter Church's name in relation to the Chindits I'm afraid. However, this is hardly surprising as there were around 30,000 personnel within the 7 Chindit Brigades over the two operations in 1943 and 1944.

    Steve
     
  7. ALIBABA

    ALIBABA Member

    The information is from the book 'Sister Sahibs@ By Marian Robertson a V.A.D. nurse. In the book she mentions Peter Reeve & Peter Church. She I think was born in Dhaka & said that Peter Church came from her village. Thank you for your reply.
     
  8. ALIBABA

    ALIBABA Member

    Thank you Tony 56 for your information which I have only just got around to it. Much appreciated
     

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