Ceist/snaidhm fogharach

Discussion in 'The Lounge Bar' started by Red Goblin, Oct 25, 2020.

  1. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Nigh 7 weeks now - 'tain't gonna happen is it ?
    (Happy Burns Night BTW)
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Apparently in hibernation at present
     
  3. Laochra Beag

    Laochra Beag Active Member

    Not in L5 lockdown, which is due to be extended tomorrow and probably will be again till, at least, Paddy's Day.

    Soz all

    John
     
  4. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    "No matter which path you are on, always do this: Question your path! If you are on the wrong path, change it; no matter on which mile of the road, change it! Till you find the right path, change all the paths!"
     
  6. Laochra Beag

    Laochra Beag Active Member

    Short indeed. Shorter than at start of day!
     
  7. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Receipt since acknowledged or just assumed ?
    Snail-mail is far too apt to emulate the infamous Bermuda Triangle in my experience !

    While bumping, BTW, happy Paddy's Day for tomorrow.
     
  8. Laochra Beag

    Laochra Beag Active Member

    No news. Letter delivered teachers, fecked off till last week. Everyone still getting used to being in school. I'll try again after 1/2term or Easter.

    This week we celebrate... wet pubs (non-food) being shut for a year. And suspension of vaccination program.

    All a bit depressing really.

    Cheers John
     
  9. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    As implied, aside to John, "mothers' ruin" (gin) was a traditional antidepressant and that, in turn, made me wonder whether anyone may be interested in this fictitious cure for "brain freeze" as the game calls it in its final act;
    MI3_cure.jpg
    "...extreme, extreme, extreme, extreme, extreme, extreme, extreme. extreme
    drowsiness.
    " FTR, the game needs it 3 times - the first 2 to feign death by mixing it with a stiff drink. :D
     
  10. Laochra Beag

    Laochra Beag Active Member

    Sounds like a good time.
     
  11. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Things that go bump in the night -
    or, to put my "tain't gonna happen" suspicion another way...
    [​IMG] ?
     
  12. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Your search - lethergothorns - did not match any documents.

    Suggestions:

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  13. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    10318CL1.jpg No egg-sucking lessons required, thanks.
     
  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Closest I could find

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  15. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Ja, the leather/lether/lethar/liathar connection does seem certain but that's where the Gaelic has one of its definitions as an effective abbreviation of 'leatherwing' (or rodent bat) with its strong folkloric baggage giving us the likes of Irish playwright Bram Stoker's shape-shifting Count Dracula.

    The German link incidentally gets stronger as, when Friedrich Murnau plagiarised Stoker's yarn with his pioneering Nosferatu silent film (1922), one of his anti-litigation precautions was to drop the shape-shifting schtick and just present Max Schreck's Count Orlok character as a hopefully-scary misunderstood freak of nature - yet another old trope possibly started by Mary Shelley (Frankenstein's angst-ridden anonymous monster) followed by the more biographic likes of The Elephant Man &c. Before provisionally shelving the notion of bats being mistaken for lunantishee, though, I did make this photographic comparison -
    batMax.png

    And as for not finding "lethergothorns" on the web, per se, it's a pretty poor search engine that can't find this thread - even in image mode of late. If you're still submitting to Gurgle's user-profiling malarkey, you might ponder whether they may wish to suppress WW2Talk matches as too sterile to earn them payment from mercantile interests. But you're nonetheless unlikely to find any other matches with a general web search engine for many reasons including phonetic-blindness, partial word (sub-string) matching and not including simple de facto wild card expressions like '*' and/or '?' in their vocabularies.

    I'll just leave you with an old phonetic riddle - what comes between fear and sex ?
     
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  16. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    A shotgun blast
     
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  17. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    :D Firing it seems a tad extreme but you fell for the intended dupe hook, line & sinker though I had thought your Germanic context plus my additionally forewarning you of its phonetic basis would help you see through that. But thanks for giving it a go. The real answer is fünf (select white text to reveal it - disguised for the benefit of anyone yet to crack it).

    Whitby, in this morning's news, incidentally reminded me how Dracula was supposed to have swum ashore, from the shipwrecked Russian schooner Demeter carrying his coffin, there in a 3rd form as a dog - go figure why not just fly ashore, as a bird-sized bat straight to a high roost like the clifftop Church or nearby Abbey ruin, but that was Stoker's 'street-roaming soggy mutt' story FWIW !

    I also got to thinking about leatherjackets - not 2 words, as in Indiana Jones' Nazi-conning case, but the larval form of lacy-winged crane flies if you get my drift - but they're not adapted to clinging to any kind of bush and I couldn't link "gothorn" to "jacket" in any case.
     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Just ran it through the Enigma


    lethergothorns = lethergothorns

    So Germanic influence not founded

    However run through the Intergalatic translator

    lethergothorns = ꖎᒷℸ ̣ ⍑ᒷ∷⊣ℸ ̣ ⍑∷リᓭ

    This recognises the word as originating from deep space .The origin is presumed to be founded in the constellation Leo Minor.Not to be confused with Lee Major.

    [​IMG]

    More investigation required but its a start




     
  19. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Ah. now you seem to be drifting towards the religious perception of shee as grounded fallen angels but that narrow aspect has yet to yield any candidate terminology from any Irish dictionary at my disposal. And native familiarity with that has got to be the key to recognition - both as I originally stated and as my borrowed riddle also demonstrates in demanding basic familiarity with German to make it as easy as 1, 2, 3 oder ein, zwei, drei, ... vier, fünf, sechs, und so weiter auf Deutsch. None of our forum members seem to possess that, for Gaelic or Hiberno-English, and so John's offer seems our only real chance given the abysmal failure of the so-called folklore experts prior to my raising the topic here.

    Nor can I seem to let go of the possibility of the English hearer actually meaning to convey 'let-her-go, thorns'. as in unseen hands wickedly clinging to young girls' dresses in order to abduct them for surrogate fairy motherhood - common fear. But the problem with that seems to be having nothing to do with harming bushes and more to do with being daft enough to get too near in easily-snagged clothing like billowy dresses.
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    The British Library would a a good stopping point via their ref query section
     

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