CASUALTY LISTS of the ROYAL NAVY and DOMINION NAVIES 1904-2008

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by nickb, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. nickb

    nickb Member

    Found this site whilst searching the web for the loss of the SS Cape Corso 2 May 1942.

    Royal Navy Casualties in World War 2

    Amazing research and a credit to the compiler Don Kindell.

    Nick
     
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  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Remarkable site, thread pinned, nice one Nick.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
  3. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Don really has created an extremely useful asset - I have used an awful lot of his info in my research into the Great War

    Chris
     
  4. Sadsac

    Sadsac Senior Member

    NICK, yes great & informative site by DON.
    I have `fuller' details of submariners lost `day one to yesterday'.
    Also `some' not lost !!


    CHRIS, presume you are back among `the living & brain dead' so see you tonight ??

    Sadsac
     
  5. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Have used it myself to research naval casualties.

    very good site.
     
  6. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Hi all, this goes on a bit but bear with it please.

    Summarising greatly, 9 Mk3 LCTs were being towed from Glasgow to Gibraltar en route to Far East as part of Convoy OS92/KMS66.
    The Glasgow portion of the convoy deprarted Rothesay Bay (incl LCTs) Friday 13th October 1944. Ominous date?
    By early hours Wednesday 18th October a storm had blown up in the Irish Sea and the LCTs were taking heavy weather damage.
    Normal crew for Mk3 LCT was 2 Officers, 10 ratings but for this convoy at least 3 EXTRA RATINGS are reported to have been carried.
    LCT 488 was starting to founder, departed convoy and headed for Milford Haven under own power but escorted by HMS Knaresborough Castle.
    Again summarising, shortly after 1733hrs 18/10/1944, crew abandoned LCT and most were picked up by Knaresborough Castle.
    SEVEN reported washed back to LCT, which got under way again and headed for Milford Haven, but sunk 0540 19/10/1944 approx position 050, 24'N, 006, 55'W, 1 survivor picked up - CO, Sub-Lt Steele after 3 hours in water.
    Of the remaining LCTs 5 others were lost, 2 with all hands.
    This is where it gets confusing:

    Report 19/10/44 from HMS Knaresborough Castle (rec'd Admiralty 1324hrs)
    Survivors LCT 488:
    STEELE (Sub-Lt, CO 488)
    KING
    KILLORAN
    BARBOUR
    ABBOTT
    MONOGLES
    BRADY
    JACKSON
    WOODS
    BAILEY
    MPK (Missing Presumed Killed):
    ARMSTEAD
    COCKBILL
    GLADMAN
    HOWARD E.G.
    HOWARD ROY W.
    LONG
    McCOLL
    (All numbers given and check out - omitted for clarity)
     
    BUT (Taken diectly from 'Casualty lists of the Royal Navy and Dominion Navies')
    LCT.488, foundered, stress of weather, Lands End, ship loss,18th-19th
    ARMSTEAD, Stanley, Leading Wireman, D/MX 510022, MPK
    BELL, Peter G, Ty/Sub Lieutenant, RNZNVR, MPK
    COCKBILL, Alfred C, Wireman, D/MX 630047, MPK
    GLADMAN, Reginald J, Telegraphist, C/JX 616299, MPK
    LONG, Martin, Petty Officer Motor Mechanic, C/MX 126648, MPK
    THOMAS, Arthur P P, Ty/Sub Lieutenant, RNVR, MPK
     
    18th October 1944
    LCT.488, foundered, stress of weather, Lands End, ship loss, 18th-19th
    HOWARD, Edward G, Able Seaman, P/JX 387399, MPK
    HOWARD, Roy W, Stoker 1c, D/KX 158239, MPK
    MCCOLL, James, Act/Able Seaman, D/JX 227963, MPK
     
    19th October 1944
     
    LCT.488, foundered, stress of weather, Lands End, ship loss,18th-19th
    ARMSTEAD, Stanley, Leading Wireman, D/MX 510022, MPK
    BELL, Peter G, Ty/Sub Lieutenant, RNZNVR, MPK
    COCKBILL, Alfred C, Wireman, D/MX 630047, MPK
    GLADMAN, Reginald J, Telegraphist, C/JX 616299, MPK
    LONG, Martin, Petty Officer Motor Mechanic, C/MX 126648, MPK
    THOMAS, Arthur P P, Ty/Sub Lieutenant, RNVR, MPK

    What seems strange is that the the two men NOT listed in the CO's report were both Acting Sub-Lts, Bell and Thomas. One RNZVR, the other RNVR and the CO makes no mention of them at all. Service numbers are not listed for any of the Officers concerned, as I believe was habit at the time.
    My question:which is the more accurate record? The CO a few hours after being picked up after 3 hours in the water, and forgetting 2 Acting Sub-Lts, or the 'Official record?
    If you are wondering why? My Uncle was PO/MM Martin Long. :poppy:

    Thanks for your patience, any thoughts?
     
  7. handtohand22

    handtohand22 Senior Member

  8. chloejane

    chloejane Junior Member

    Hoping someone can point me in the right direction, I am doing some family research, looking for anything on a Olof Lindquist, I beleive he was an officer on the Bonaventure? Also a rumour he was killed in action on a Swedish ship on the Yangste.
    Also trying to find a listing of civilians who were intered in China and then returned to Australia on the Bonaventure when it sailed from Hong Kong 7th Feb 1946, Any help would be greatly appreciated

    Cheers
    CJ
     
  9. Prop wash

    Prop wash Member

    Amazing research a credit to the compiler Don Kindell.

    Perhaps of interest to the list and for the record the following.

    Abel Seaman Rodney Trevor WOODWARD, 2938, RCN was the first Canadian Naval casualty of WW2 and came from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Trevor Woodward was born May 1920 and entered the Royal Canadian Navy as a boy (seaman class) in May 1937. He trained at Naden and HMCS Skeena and served in ST Laurent. In November 1939 he was sent overseas for a submarine detector's course. He was killed in action in a machine-gun engagement with two enemy aircraft in the North Sea while serving in a Royal Navy anti-submarine motor boat. He was on a three month extension of his overseas draft at the time of his death. Funeral for AB Woodward was held at Great Yarmouth, England, July 22, 1940. Burial Caister Cemetery 3 miles North of Great Yarmouth on the main coast road north (A149). Grave site is almost in the south-east corner of the cemetery, in the rear row - that is viewed from the path leading south from the main entrance.

    Can anyone tell me which vesssel he was on at the time or build on this story?

    Thanks in advance!

    Bill - Moose Jaw, SK
     
  10. nicknobbyclark

    nicknobbyclark Junior Member

    Found this site whilst searching the web for the loss of the SS Cape Corso 2 May 1942.

    Royal Navy Casualties in World War 2

    Amazing research and a credit to the compiler Don Kindell.

    Nick

    Yes Nick I agree Don has certainly done a great job.

    If it helps I have all the Royal Naval Patrol Service casualties plus all the Merchant Navy and Fishing Fleet lost during both wars.

    If I can help anyone with their research please drop me a line.

    Regards

    Nick Clark
     
  11. No.4CommandoBairn

    No.4CommandoBairn Well-Known Member

    I thought I'd take a look on here to see if my dad's uncle was listed - and within a minute, I'd found him. I now have his service number and have downloaded a certificate, regarding the circumstances of his death, from the CWGC site.

    Thank you.

    This thread got me interested in renewing my knowledge regarding my ancestors ... rejoined a forum ... and realised I already had this information - and had forgotten it.

    Oh the joys of being 60+. ;)
     
  12. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

    Yesterday, when I started a new investigation in
    http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/
    I received this message in a emergent window: Don Kindell, a leading Naval Historian, was instrumental in bringing the Hague Database to this Web site. Currently he is in hospital suffering from cancer. Your prayers for his safe recovery are requested.
    If you wish to email then you may do so through the Web Master.




    Jan.
     
  13. TijgerB

    TijgerB Member

    Sure a great site which I have been using myself. Actually I am working on a database on British/Commonwealth losses in the NEI '45 - '46. Actually I am looking for an other rating from the RN murdered in Padang (Emmahaven?) in the end of 1945. I have no name but know he was found in December '45. I just found two officers murdered in Palembang commerorated in the UK. But can it be I has to guessthrough 27000 names on cwgc :mellow:
     

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