Captured Ammo and equipment

Great pics, seems to show some fire damage to the side.



I wonder if the last photo is taken in the Cap Bon region in the final days before the German Surrender.
The cliff looks high enough to be in the area.
Does anyone know the location for sure?

Regards
Tom

 

Well if we look at the Channel Islands as an example the heaviest coastal battery there (the Mirus) was equipped with the guns from a Russian battleship that arrived there via a very tortureous route Batterie Mirus

Battery Dollman on Guernsey was equipped with French artillery pieces - part of the local defences there is a Renault Ft17 turretBatterie Dollmann

10.5cm Jager Casemate likewise more French artillery

 

I wonder if the last photo is taken in the Cap Bon region in the final days before the German Surrender.
The cliff looks high enough to be in the area.
Does anyone know the location for sure?

Regards
Tom

Tom, no there is little in the way of footnotes.
File:German M3 wreck2 Tunis May1943.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

 

I feel a modelling opportunity coming on.


I wonder who makers a Horch staff car???



I couldn't find a search option but they tend to make anything and everything....Maybe a quick email?

Tamiya, Inc. Home Page

Cheers
Andy

 

Does the M3 have the roller replaced with a fuel tank?

Kev

 

I can only find a smaller scale one.

Horch 853 WWII German Staff Car w/Machine Gun - HO [189-41310] - $17.99 :: Models11 - Superb Products

Regards
Tom

 

I think it's still just the roller on the front of that halftrack.

Yea I can see that now Im not on the pokey cheap works monitor.

Kev

 

Oh isn't this fun...running a search using "erbeuteter" (captured) gives about 50, some WW1 and some WW2, including....

File:Bundesarchiv Bild 146-1972-019-88, Beuteflugzeug, Vickers Wellington.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

File:Bundesarchiv Bild 101I-301-1970-21, Nordfrankreich, erbeutete amerikanische Spähpanzer.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

File:Bundesarchiv Bild 101I-304-0608-21A, Italien, italienischer Spähpanzer AB 41.jpg - Wikimedia Commons (after Italians had switched sides, of course)

...as well as all the usual French etc stuff.

 

A few pictures with captured small arms




Italy, paratrooper with Bren MG in resting position



Holland, Arnheim/Osterbeek. - three paratroopers in covering with rifle and captured machine gun (MG) aiming.

 

What a fantastic pic. He looks will chuffed with his Bren and rightly too.

Kev

 

Headlines: France, parade of the Milice Francaise Specially information: France. - Parade of members of the Milice Francaise with geschultertem machine gun; PK KBZ WHETHER west

 

What a great bunch, Drew! From Wikipedia:
The Milice française (French Militia), generally called simply Milice, was a paramilitary force created on January 30 1943 by the Vichy Regime, with German aid, to help fight the French Resistance. The Milice's formal leader was Prime Minister Pierre Laval, though its chief of operations, and actual leader, was Secretary General Joseph Darnand. It participated in summary executions, assassinations and helped round up the Jews and résistants in France for deportation. It was the successor to Joseph Darnand's Service d'ordre légionnaire (SOL) militia.

The Milice often resorted to torture to extract information or confessions from those they rounded up. They were often considered more dangerous to the French Resistance than the Gestapo and SS themselves, since they were Frenchmen who spoke the language, had a full knowledge of the towns and land, and knew people and informers.

...

Early volunteers for the Milice included members of France's pre-war far right-wing parties, such as the Action Française, but also working-class men by then convinced of the blessings of Vichy's alliance with Nazi Germany.

In addition to ideology, incentives for joining the Milice included employment, regular pay and rations. (The latter was particularly important as the war went on and civilian rations were reduced steadily to almost starvation levels.) Some also joined because members of their families had been killed or injured in Allied bombing raids or had been threatened, extorted or attacked by Communist-dominated French Resistance groups. Still others joined for less exalted reasons, such as petty criminals who were told their crimes would be overlooked if they joined the organization. Volunteers for the Milice were also exempt from being sent to Germany as forced labor.

.....

The precise legal standing of the Milice was never formalized. It operated parallel to, but separately from, the normal (Vichy) French police force. It was outside of (indeed, above) the law such as it existed at the time and its actions were never subject to judicial review or control.

In August 1944, rightly fearing he would be called to account for the operations of the Milice, Marshall Pétain made a clumsy effort to distance himself from the organization by writing a harsh letter rebuking Darnand for the organization's "excesses." Darnand sent back a sarcastic reply, telling Pétain that he ought to have voiced his objections sooner.

 

"Hey Joe, wanna take a ride?"

 

Great pic!


Another:

 

An Oh Shit moment:

 

So this was the problem with those dratted French tanks! The No-Man turret!

 

In the oh shit moment is the officer with the binoculars holding a Sten Gun?

 

Guess not, but if he is he's in for bigger shit for he'd be pointing it at himself